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EU readies €20bn plan B to fund Ukraine
Financial Times ^ | 12/26/2023 | Paola Tamma

Posted on 12/26/2023 4:25:22 PM PST by marcusmaximus

The EU is preparing a back-up plan worth up to €20bn for Ukraine, using a debt structure that sidesteps the objections of Hungary’s Viktor Orbán about funding the war-torn country.

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KEYWORDS: dailypropaganda; dailysorospropaganda; eu; greengobblin; hungary; lesspropagandaplease; orban; russia; ukraine
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To: Reverend Wright

Guessing a ‘gofundme’ page ain’t gonna get then?

🙏🇺🇸🇮🇱💨


21 posted on 12/26/2023 5:11:06 PM PST by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this💩? 🚫💉! 🇮🇱👍!)
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To: marcusmaximus
EU readies €20bn plan B to fund Ukraine

If the EU hadn't got into bed with the Uke Nazis she wouldn't need a Plan B.

Screw the EU, ...

Wait, that's Redundant.

22 posted on 12/26/2023 5:16:03 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: marcusmaximus

I’m pretty sure Orban feels he is carrying out the wishes of his people. No love for the Russians here from me. I still carry grudges for the US POWs I’m certain they took from the Norks and the North Vietnamese prisons for info purposes.
The hell with them. The more misery the Ukes can put to them in their doomed efforts the better.


23 posted on 12/26/2023 5:25:10 PM PST by desertsolitaire ( M)
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To: dforest

Agree


24 posted on 12/26/2023 6:07:17 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (I didn't come here to guide lambs, but to awaken lions 🦅 MAGADONIAN ⚔️)
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To: marcusmaximus
Notwithstanding that corruption index surveys are based entirely upon perception (because I'm sure those are totally unbiased and not subject to any political considerations), the fact that you'd compare Viktor Orban with the likes of Belarus's president Alexander Lukashenko renders you devoid of any shred of credibility that you may have still possessed.
25 posted on 12/26/2023 6:25:48 PM PST by Ultra Sonic 007 (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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To: Reverend Wright; dforest; aMorePerfectUnion
Seems normal for the EU to circumvent rules

You guys got it wrong, as usual

Orban himself said it was OK for the other Euro countries to fund Ukraine, as long as Hungary was left out

Adapt, improvise, overcome ... not dead yet!


26 posted on 12/26/2023 6:52:12 PM PST by canuck_conservative (NATO - keeping Europe free of Russian invaders for 74 years - you're welcome!)
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To: Reno89519

“ Good, leave the US out of it. And while they are coughing up money, maybe they pay more for NATO and the cover of American military.”
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BINGO! Mega dittos.


27 posted on 12/26/2023 7:04:13 PM PST by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA. -PRO-MAX)
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To: marcusmaximus

>Hungary is the most corrupt country in the EU. Orban is a clown like Lukashenko.<

Apparently, Hungarians don’t think Orban’s a clown.

He’s won FOUR consecutive terms as Hungary’s prime minister.


28 posted on 12/26/2023 7:59:20 PM PST by bimboeruption (“Less propaganda would be appreciated.” JimRob 12-2-2023)
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To: MNDude; marcusmaximus
"Actually, Europe and USA are the ones that have become demilitarized."

How many NATO ships have sunk? None.

How about Russia's Black Sea Fleet, that had its HQs building destroyed, its blockade of Ukrainian Grain shipments broken by force, and has had to retreat the basing of its ships back to Russian ports as far from Ukraine as their ports exist? (Red x's indicate total losses. Additional ships have been damaged, as has Russian shipyard capacity in the Black Sea).

Have you noticed that Russia has already mostly burned through its old fleets of Su-24 and Su-25 Close Air Support jets, and are now losing their modern front line air superiority fighters (Su-30) and long range fighter bombers (Su-34) at a rapid rate?

How many NATO F-35s have been lost? Not one. For that matter, how many of NATO's more than 2,000 old predecessor F-16s have been lost? Not even one.

How many tank losses have NATO units suffered? None at all. In fact, More NATO tank units have been funded to form since Putin's 2022 invasion. Same story for NATO's Active and Reserve Artillery units - untouched by combat losses, and funded to expand their force structure.

The bulk of all systems donated to Ukraine were deactivated systems in long term storage, with the exception of a minority of armored vehicles and Artillery from a few Eastern European Countries.

NATO's Combat forces are larger today than they were in 2021, and have been funded to increase their training and expand their force structure as a result of Putin's 2022 invasion.

29 posted on 12/26/2023 9:05:59 PM PST by BeauBo
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To: MNDude
Actually, Europe and USA are the ones that have become demilitarized. USA is low on artillery shells and uniforms. Bargain of a lifetime for Putin to see NATO countries sink lower and lower.

If NATO had its artillery pieces back from the Ukraine, it could have the capability to engage the Russians in artillery duels.

If it had artillery shells.  

30 posted on 12/26/2023 9:22:05 PM PST by kiryandil (The Biden: "Zelensky, we need to sit down and have a talk.")
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To: MNDude
Proud soldiers of NAFO:


31 posted on 12/26/2023 9:26:42 PM PST by kiryandil (The Biden: "Zelensky, we need to sit down and have a talk.")
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To: marcusmaximus

Obsession

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hIs5StN8J-0


32 posted on 12/26/2023 9:35:29 PM PST by Allegra (Less propaganda would be appreciated.)
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