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Ranked cheating.
1 posted on 12/25/2023 9:52:12 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
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One party is strongly for it, the other party can’t figure out what to do or say.


2 posted on 12/25/2023 10:06:53 PM PST by Steely Tom ([Voter Fraud] == [Civil War])
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GEEZ US, RANKED CHOICE IS THE ...WORST...METHOD OF VOTING.

THE DEMONCRAPS HAVE FOUND A WAY TO ...STEEL ELECTIONS UNDER THE GUISE OF MORE CHOICE...

DO NOT FALL FOR THIS ABOMINATION. THIS IS THE WAY THE LEFT HAS STOLEN ELECTIONS...ESPECIALLY IN ALASKA.

When voting, chose the FIRST person you want...and let the rest of the nominees fend for themselves.


3 posted on 12/25/2023 10:18:39 PM PST by Maris Crane
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According to “FairVote”... That tells me all I need to know. If they call themselves FairVote you can bet they are not all interested in voting being fair.


5 posted on 12/25/2023 10:24:03 PM PST by lastchance (Cognovit Dominus qui sunt eius.)
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What the hell is wrong with the way we’ve been doing it for the past 234 years?


6 posted on 12/25/2023 10:33:41 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (They've begun dismantling Arlington Cemetery, next comes diggin up white solders and dumpin' 'em.)
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Absolutely the last nail in the Nation’s coffin...


7 posted on 12/25/2023 10:58:39 PM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is the next Sam Adams when we so desperately need him)
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Coming to NV soon. Unions pushing it.


9 posted on 12/25/2023 11:17:05 PM PST by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this๐Ÿ’ฉ? ๐Ÿšซ๐Ÿ’‰! ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ฑ๐Ÿ‘!)
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Another dem party scheme to steal elections, over and over agian.


10 posted on 12/25/2023 11:37:01 PM PST by KC_Conspirator
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bttt


11 posted on 12/25/2023 11:43:50 PM PST by Pajamajan (Pray for our nation. Never be slave in a new Socialist America.pz)
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Itโ€™s an insane idea


14 posted on 12/26/2023 12:08:57 AM PST by Nifster ( I see puppy dogs in the clouds )
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Just one of a number of reasons I continue to assert that there are no more political solutions.


15 posted on 12/26/2023 3:30:46 AM PST by MachIV
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It’s not just ranked cheating.

RCV is the excuse to RCV-enabled voting machines in states that still don’t have them.

Here’s a question: If NYC is so reliably lib, why does NYC now have RCV...?


16 posted on 12/26/2023 3:33:43 AM PST by mewzilla (Never give up; never surrender!)
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The UniParty solution to MAGA...


17 posted on 12/26/2023 5:19:00 AM PST by mo ("If you understand, no explanation is needed; if you don't understand, no explanation is possible)
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despite bipartisan “CONCERNS” its out right voter fraud and once again the GOP goes along


18 posted on 12/26/2023 5:19:08 AM PST by ronnie raygun
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Absolutely stupid. My vote is my vote for the candidate of my choice. It’s not ever to be abrogated to some other candidate due to some stupid statistical rank.


20 posted on 12/26/2023 5:38:36 AM PST by cyclotic (Donโ€™t be part of the problem. Be the entire problem)
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The first prob w/this is you have to rank ALL candidates, including those of parties you may not like, and rank accordingly. For most, the ranking of all but the top couple of candidates will be arbitrary.

I.e. The ticket will not just have a bunch of R and D candidates, but independents or even other parties. Recognize that there will be multiple Rs, Ds, and Is.

Let’s say, you are usually for R, against D, and dismiss out of hand the I’s. So you go list your R candidates only on the ballot.

If it turns out all the R’s lose, since you did NOT rank ALL candidates, you now have no vote in the D vs I runoff.

The next election, you’ve got it beaten into your head you need to rank ALL, but how to do? How good of a comparison are you going to make against all those candidates you’re not really interested in? Something may come up in the elimination rounds that changes your mind per the lower choice candidates, especially since those folks will garner more media attention in the runoff days.

So, a big problem w/RCV is that it forces voters to rank ALL candidates PERFECTLY based on a certain set of available candidates, which is not going to happen.

The reality is that the voter’s choice of ranking will change depending on who is left on the battlefield. The only chance to preclude that is to make a PERFECT ranking of candidates up front because the eliminations are handled automatically.

But there is no way to do that. Let’s say I’m going for the independents. My ranking may change depending on who actually gets the most votes.

I.e., say there are 2 Rs, 2 Ds and 2 Is. Of the Is, R voters generally would prefer I #1 but D voters generally would prefer I #2. Let’s also say, I like both sides of the aisle to “foster a spirit of cooperation”.

So say I really want an I and my favorite is #1, I’ll tolerate an R, and I don’t like the Ds. I also think the R will beat the Ds easy.

So I vote for my I #1 but to my surprise, a D takes the most votes. Had I actually known in advance that would be the case, I would’ve selected I #2 as my top choice since the Ds hate I #1 so much.

Even though I “learned my lesson” last time and ranked all candidates, I am still screwed.

So the ultimate problem w/RCV is that not only must you perfectly rank all candidates, you must also be PSYCHIC -knowing in advance who tops it in the first round. Indeed, you have to know the full sequence in which elimination will occur.


21 posted on 12/26/2023 5:57:09 AM PST by fruser1
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22 posted on 12/26/2023 6:08:26 AM PST by Alas Babylon! (Repeal the Patriot Act; Abolish the DHS; reform FBI top to bottom!)
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How is this constitutionally legal? Assigning my vote to another person cancels my choice!


23 posted on 12/26/2023 6:26:34 AM PST by Afisra (It's easier to gun proof a child than child proof a gun!)
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We got stuck with ranked choice voting here in what used to be Alaska. We had a clear choice at first between a flaming democrat (Peltola) and a conservative (Begich). Then on the last possible day to file that disengenous cheerleader Palin jumped in in another attempt to be relevant. Owing to the mechanics of RCV this resulted in Peltola winning the seat formerly occupied by Don Young. BTW Peltola was strongly supported by our famous RINO Murkowski.


28 posted on 12/26/2023 8:20:47 AM PST by FrozenAssets (You don't have to be crazy to live here, but it helps)
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Voting for a Democrat would be a RANK CHOICE.


30 posted on 12/26/2023 2:32:14 PM PST by Neverlift
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