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Netherlands Prepares to Hand Over F-16 Fighter Jets to Ukraine
Breitbart ^ | 12/22/2023 | BREITBART LONDON

Posted on 12/22/2023 9:28:34 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27

THE HAGUE, Netherlands (AP) – The Dutch government announced Friday it is preparing to give 18 F-16 fighter jets to Ukraine, in a boost for the embattled nation that is growing increasingly anxious about aid from its Western allies.

The Dutch defense minister, Kajsa Ollongren, sent a letter to parliament outlining the plan to donate the sophisticated jets that was first unveiled in the summer.

Friday´s decision is a significant step toward sending the planes into the skies over Ukraine, but did not say when they will be delivered.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Ukraine
KEYWORDS: f16; jets; netherlands; ukraine
Who in the hell is going to train and maintain these jets? What a joke.
1 posted on 12/22/2023 9:28:34 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27
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"Who in the hell is going to train and maintain these jets?"

"Volunteers" who happen to be recent ex-military....

2 posted on 12/22/2023 9:33:45 AM PST by Tench_Coxe (The woke were surprised by the reaction to the Bud Light fiasco. May there be many more surprises)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

These are some old worn out airframes.


3 posted on 12/22/2023 9:42:25 AM PST by glorgau
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Probably their long on the tooth A/Bs.


4 posted on 12/22/2023 9:42:27 AM PST by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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“but did not say when they will be delivered.”

The check’s in the mail.


5 posted on 12/22/2023 9:42:27 AM PST by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Might as well just scrap them for parts right now; that way they’d at least have something to show for it. Anyway, their hearts are in the right place.


6 posted on 12/22/2023 9:43:56 AM PST by Migraine
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F-16AM

This is going to be a logical nightmare. I wonder if the transfer includes “independent” contractors.

7 posted on 12/22/2023 9:52:22 AM PST by thegagline (Sic semper tyrannis! Goldwater in 2024)
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Feel good doesn’t feel so good when you realize how much support modern aircraft require. In the best of times it would take many months to set this up. Unless NATO is going to provide it. This would include trained technicians on the ground. It’s not at all like sending a bunch of P40s and a pile of spare parts and a manual and an instructor to train them and letting them get on with it.


8 posted on 12/22/2023 10:16:22 AM PST by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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How far is this going to go? F-16’s are useless without AMRAAM and Sidewinder air to air missiles. Are they going to get Harpoon anti-ship missiles and JDAM’s, too? Are we going to provide AWAC and other mission support? Will they sortie out of NATO air fields? And if so, how can we prove that they are not being flown by NATO pilots?


9 posted on 12/22/2023 10:17:01 AM PST by Sparticus (Primary the Tuesday group!)
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Russia will quickly shoot them down. It will be like shooting ducks in a barrel.


10 posted on 12/22/2023 10:24:03 AM PST by Gnome1949
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Who in the hell is going to train and maintain these jets? What a joke.

Turn over may have already happened. Several reports hint that 1 of the 3 SU-25s shot down today was by an F-16.

US and NATO countries have been training the pilots and maintenance crews for over 2 months.


11 posted on 12/22/2023 10:52:20 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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Your list of munitions is already in country and being used by UA Flankers.


12 posted on 12/22/2023 10:53:45 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Seruzawa
Claire Chennault agrees.

Sending the F16s is making an already very complicated logistical situation worse.

13 posted on 12/22/2023 11:15:49 AM PST by thegagline (Sic semper tyrannis! Goldwater in 2024)
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To: Tench_Coxe

Also ex-miltary pilot “volunteers” at $5000. per sortie.

-fJRoberts-


14 posted on 12/22/2023 2:01:40 PM PST by A strike (Words can have gender, humans cannot.)
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I’m skeptical that the have integrated Ukrainian SU-27 or SU-29’s with AMRAAM’s. Advanced air to air missiles are tightly integrated with the radar of the plane they’re launched from. Without NATO radar and datalink systems, an AMRAAM would not be very effective beyond visual range.


15 posted on 12/22/2023 3:45:34 PM PST by Sparticus (Primary the Tuesday group!)
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