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Trump, in filing, asks judge to dismiss 'invalid' Georgia election interference charges
ABC News ^ | 12/18/2023 | Olivia Rubin

Posted on 12/18/2023 12:21:55 PM PST by thegagline

Former President Donald Trump, in a new court filing Monday, again urged a Georgia judge to dismiss his Fulton County election interference charges on First Amendment grounds, arguing that the indictment against him is "categorically invalid" because it seeks to criminalize "core political speech."

"President Trump enjoys the same robust First Amendment rights as every other American," said the new filing from Trump attorneys Steve Sadow and Jennifer Little. "The indictment here does not merely criminalize conduct with an incidental impact on protected speech; instead, it directly targets core protected political speech and activity."

The new filing supports the arguments Trump's attorneys previously made in court during a hearing earlier this month, in which they said the indictment "violates free speech." ***

In Friday's filing, Trump's attorneys argue that the First Amendment "not only embraces but encourages" the type of actions Trump undertook in Georgia -- including urging Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger in his infamous phone call to "find" enough votes for Trump to overcome his loss in the state.

"Because the claim the 2020 election was rigged and stolen is protected by First Amendment when it is made in a public speech, it is equally protected by the First Amendment when it is made to government officials in an act of petitioning or advocacy," the filing states.

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The speech is still protected, the attorneys argue, even if Trump's statements were false.

"Under the First Amendment, the Government may not prohibit or criminalize speech on disputed social, political, and historical issues simply because the Government determines that some views are 'true' and others are 'false,'" the filing said. "The fact that the prosecution alleges the speech was 'false' does not change that conclusion, particularly within the political context." ***

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: constitution; crime; firstamendment; frauddeniers; gobacktodu; nevertrumpingtroll; rinos4biden; thefagline; therinoline
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The relatively short brief (slightly over 17 pages) filed by Trump’s attorneys inexplicably relies heavily upon Alito’s dissenting opinion in Alvarez v United States, 567 US 709 (2012). [the dissent is cited 5 times throughout the brief]

Dissenting opinions do not create binding precedent.

1 posted on 12/18/2023 12:21:55 PM PST by thegagline
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To: thegagline

The judicial system will not be satisfied until Trump is convicted on all charges in all cases. Massive fines and imprisonment.


2 posted on 12/18/2023 12:26:35 PM PST by CatOwner (Don't expect anyone, even conservatives, to have your back when the SHTF in 2021 and beyond.)
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While you are correct…dissenting opinions do not create precedent…the make up of the Court since 2012 has changed significantly. Perhaps Alito’s views are far more likely to be in the majority now and Trump knows he is arguing to a higher court…as no matter the lower court’s ruling, this is aire to be appealed by the losing side.


3 posted on 12/18/2023 12:27:51 PM PST by oldernittany
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To: thegagline

Do you have a link to the filing?


4 posted on 12/18/2023 12:28:43 PM PST by Fury
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Trying to “find” votes happens in every election. Very common language.


5 posted on 12/18/2023 12:30:07 PM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: Fury

https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/24228883/trump-post-hearing-brief-first-amendment-final-version-2pdf.pdf


6 posted on 12/18/2023 12:34:34 PM PST by thegagline (Sic semper tyrannis! Goldwater in 2024)
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“Do you have a link to the filing?”


I think this is it.

https://www.scribd.com/document/693397085/23SC188947-BRIEF#


7 posted on 12/18/2023 12:43:26 PM PST by CFW (I will not comply!)
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Trying to “find” votes happens in every election.

Al Gore looked at every hanging chad to find a vote.

8 posted on 12/18/2023 12:48:09 PM PST by Fido969 (45 is Superman! )
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I’d think they could come up with a stronger argument.


9 posted on 12/18/2023 12:48:50 PM PST by Fido969 (45 is Superman! )
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Lawfare must be stopped. We are on the way to becoming a banana republic.
10 posted on 12/18/2023 1:02:10 PM PST by ActresponsiblyinVA
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To: thegagline

Why wait to file this motion? This should have done on the first day or did I miss something.


11 posted on 12/18/2023 1:07:03 PM PST by devane617 (Discipline Is Reliable, Motivation Is Fleeting..)
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Agreed. The law clerk who will initially read this brief, will rightly characterize it as weak as it readily relies upon a dissenting opinion.

It resembles a pro se inmate brief. Ugh.

12 posted on 12/18/2023 1:12:07 PM PST by thegagline (Sic semper tyrannis! Goldwater in 2024)
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The only thing the judge looks at are the consequences to themselves.


13 posted on 12/18/2023 1:27:44 PM PST by Revel
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The only thing the judge looks at are the consequences to themselves.

Some do and some don’t. The judge presiding over this matter was a member of the originalist Federalist Society which is a good thing. (I too am a member)

14 posted on 12/18/2023 1:45:31 PM PST by thegagline (Sic semper tyrannis! Goldwater in 2024)
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“Al Gore looked at every hanging chad to find a vote.”

He even had a BLIND guy looking and finding them.


15 posted on 12/18/2023 1:47:00 PM PST by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts )
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Gore almost won

The Left wing FL state supreme court was going to let the
Demonrats harvest all the spoiled votes in Broward Dade and Palm Beach


16 posted on 12/18/2023 2:09:47 PM PST by ncalburt ( Gop DC Globalists are the evil ones)
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To: thegagline

If it were only core political speech. The indictment lists much more than core political speech.


17 posted on 12/18/2023 2:11:18 PM PST by joesbucks (It's called love-bombing. Claiming he's saving the world. This is a cult. Just back away. )
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If it were only core political speech. The indictment lists much more than core political speech.

Agreed. The brief ignores this fact. Neither the DA nor the Judge will be fooled by this willful omission.

18 posted on 12/18/2023 2:19:57 PM PST by thegagline (Sic semper tyrannis! Goldwater in 2024)
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Aliito’s dissent seems irrelevant to me. First Amendment, prima facia grounds for dismissal.


19 posted on 12/18/2023 2:23:53 PM PST by bigbob
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Aliito’s dissent seems irrelevant to me.

Unfortunately, Trump’s attorneys didn’t see it that way.

20 posted on 12/18/2023 2:34:52 PM PST by thegagline (Sic semper tyrannis! Goldwater in 2024)
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