Posted on 12/15/2023 7:51:26 AM PST by SeekAndFind
Sure, but she’s not anything you just described. She’s JEWISH. But yes, her dual citizenship is of concern, but I already told you that.
But we did/do have members of congress who had dual citizenship. Ted Cruz and Gabby Giffords come to mind.
Several members of Congress were born outside the U.S. This does not necessarily mean they hold dual citizenship, but it’s a possibility.
I was not aware we had “dual citizenship” here??? Don’t new citizens have to abdicate their former citizensip?
........you make a valid point but Trumps record in office is a known quantity and a good one.
This woman is totally new and therefore prudence dictates caution. We have only to look at the Obama’s and the BCF (Biden Crime Family) to recall what damage to America people can do once elected.
RE: She’s also a citizen of Israel. I would have every expectation that she’d happily work to move the entire population of Gaza here, too.
Again, how do you know that? Did she openly say so?
Look, I am not overlooking your concerns, but I want proof of any accusations made absent any recorded statements
RE: I was not aware we had “dual citizenship” here??? Don’t new citizens have to abdicate their former citizensip?
That should be a requirement. Ted Cruz and Michele Bachmann did (Cruz renounced Canadian citizenship after serving as Senator for 2 years ).
The question of whether Michele Bachmann had dual citizenship is a bit complex and has a nuanced history:
In 2012, Swiss media revealed that Bachmann had obtained Swiss citizenship through her husband’s Swiss heritage.
Initially, Bachmann dismissed this as a “non-story” and claimed she wasn’t exercising any rights associated with Swiss citizenship.
However, facing public pressure and controversy, Bachmann formally renounced her Swiss citizenship later that year.
I can’t find any statement about closing the boarder, and slowing down emigration. As hot a topic as emigration is, if you are not talking about reducing it, you must before increasing it.
I’m tired of these foreigners who want to run our country. This woman is an Israeli citizen and probably still a citizen of Ethiopia. What kind of loyalty can she have to this country? She has no clue about our culture.
Her husband is from Ukraine and a physician. Foreign physicians can be worse. They bring their cultural biases with them.
A few years ago I had a head cold and went to a doc-in-the-box. The guy was a foreigner and asked if I ever drank alcohol. I replied once in a while. He asked how much. I said a pint. The guy screamed A PINT!!!!! and wrote in the record that I was an alcoholic and needed to have my liver tested. My PCP thought it was funny. I didn’t.
RE: I can’t find any statement about closing the boarder, and slowing down emigration.
Her policies are still a big question mark. Here’s what we know of her so far:
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/14/nyregion/pilip-santos-special-election.html
Local Republicans subjected Ms. Pilip to extensive scrutiny, including by three outside research firms. Party leaders said they had done so to avoid backing another nominee like Mr. Santos, whose egregious lies went undetected by Republicans for years.
“Having reviewed those records, we feel comfortable that they have done a complete background check,” Joseph G. Cairo Jr., the Nassau Republican chairman, said. “We know everything we need to know about Mazi.”
So, if this is an indicator of anything, she’ll probably be like a typical New York Republican... that’s the best we can get out of this state.
RE: I’m tired of these foreigners who want to run our country. This woman is an Israeli citizen and probably still a citizen of Ethiopia.
My stance is not to make any categorical statements without actual evidence. Caution and vigilance is the right attitude, but we need to look at the evidence before jumping into conclusions.
I don’t know. Ethiopians are pretty conservative, mostly because what they’ve been through. I made an Ethiopian friend who had lived his young years in Sweden and he told me, “There’s no reason for them to let all these hoodlums in. At first they let aspirational people in, but then they let in anyone, and it ruined a perfectly good country.”
I'm not sure what that is supposed to mean.
Biden was born here...The Clintons were born here.. I could go on.
I'd dismiss most concerns about people who may qualify for citizenship by descent, by marriage, etc. without ever affirmatively assenting to that citizenship.
That's not what we are dealing with here. As someone else pointed out on this thread, this woman may actually be a citizen of THREE countries ... and she served in the armed forces of one of them (NOT the United States).
We can’t blame her for being born in Ethiopia. She has no control over the circumstances of her birth. That she moved to Israel is understandable. After all, she is of Jewish heritage.
The only thing that she can be “blamed” ( for want of a better word) for is her wanting to have it both ways — serve in America’s Congress while still retaining Israeli citizenship.
However, how do we know that she still holds Israeli and Ethiopian citizenship?
I have a colleague ( American citizen from Ethiopia) who was naturalized 15 years ago and he tells me that Ethiopia does not officially recognize dual citizenship. This means that if you are an Ethiopian citizen and acquire citizenship in another country, you are technically considered to have lost your Ethiopian citizenship. He tells me that While Ethiopia recognizes some rights for individuals with dual nationality within its borders, it is important to be aware that citizenship rights and the extent of recognition may vary depending on specific circumstances and the provisions of any agreements between Ethiopia and the other country you have citizenship in.
Now is our would be Congresswoman STILL an Israeli citizen? You and I are simply assuming that she is, but how do we really know?
RE: Biden was born here...The Clintons were born here.. I could go on.
I’m talking about CONGRESS, not the position of President.
Jews who fled Germany in the 1930s lost their citizenship because they didn’t live in Germany.
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