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Dershowitz to Newsmax: Jan. 6 Case 'Probably' Applies to Trump
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Posted on 12/15/2023 2:06:12 AM PST by Tench_Coxe

Constitutional law expert Alan Dershowitz told Newsmax on Thursday that the Jan. 6 case the Supreme Court has agreed to take up "probably" applies to former President Donald Trump, in addition to a number of other Jan. 6 defendants, including his client.

"Look, these were not obstructions of justice," Dershowitz said during an appearance on "National Report." "These were attempts to exercise First Amendment rights to petition the government for a redress of grievances. Some of the people went too far and destroyed property, but those people who just tried to influence the congressional hearings were exercising their constitutional right.

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Defendant Joseph Fischer, who was indicted on seven charges following the Jan. 6 protest, is 1 of at least 325 people facing that charge for their alleged roles in the incident. The charge has also been brought against Trump in the federal case charging him with trying to overturn the 2020 election results.

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The scuttlebutt is that the others charged with obstruction of an official proceding would have that charge overturned, if Scotus rules in favor of Fischer.

They deserve restitution, not just a shrug and an "oh well, our bad".
And in any case, it would be too late for Matthew Perna.

1 posted on 12/15/2023 2:06:12 AM PST by Tench_Coxe
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To: Tench_Coxe

12/11/2023
https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/pr/ohio-man-arrested-assaulting-law-enforcement-and-other-charges-during-jan-6-capitol-0

In the 35 months since Jan. 6, 2021, more than 1,230 individuals have been charged in nearly all 50 states for crimes related to the breach of the U.S. Capitol, including more than 440 individuals charged with assaulting or impeding law enforcement, a felony. The investigation remains ongoing.


2 posted on 12/15/2023 2:50:08 AM PST by griswold3 (Truth, Beauty and Goodness. )
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To: griswold3

The person who belongs in jail for J6 is Nancy Pelosi.


3 posted on 12/15/2023 3:19:39 AM PST by FroggyTheGremlim (Plunk your magic twanger, Froggy!)
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To: Tench_Coxe

Trump did not try to overturn an election, he tried to expose a fraudulent election.

Which had so much evidence that it’s astonishing how little media coverage it’s got. This proves the media is 100% liberal hacks


4 posted on 12/15/2023 3:31:41 AM PST by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing Obamacare is worse than Obamacare)
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To: Tench_Coxe

my prediction is, the next Republican president will not only pardon nearly all the J6 people, he will also pay them out millions in restitution.


5 posted on 12/15/2023 3:40:43 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009
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To: Tench_Coxe
Before any additional charges are filed or trials are conducted review...and make public...every minute of the thousands of hours of video that exist. Also,get The Botox Queen and the DC Mayor under oath and ask them why they turned down DJT's offer of 10,000 troops.

And as for convictions/guilty pleas that have already occurred...review the videos for evidence of reasonable,responsible behavior...the person walking calmly through roped "pathways" and people being calmly waved in by Capitol Police for example.

6 posted on 12/15/2023 3:41:46 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Proudly Clinging To My Guns And My Religion)
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To: Mr. K
"This proves the media is 100% liberal hacks captured"

Fixed it. Operation Mockingbird never went away.

7 posted on 12/15/2023 3:43:27 AM PST by Tench_Coxe (The woke were surprised by the reaction to the Bud Light fiasco. May there be many more surprises)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

That all depends on who that person is. When our SOTH says he’s a “Christian with a Biblical world view”, and then cavorts and consults with Paul Ryan for a day, I don’t hold out much hope for any Republican doing the right thing. Except Trump.


8 posted on 12/15/2023 3:56:04 AM PST by MayflowerMadam (As God's children, we live on promises, not explanations - Wiersbe)
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To: Tench_Coxe; Liz
These were attempts to exercise First Amendment rights to petition the government for a redress of grievances. Some of the people went too far and destroyed property, but those people who just tried to influence the congressional hearings were exercising their constitutional right.

ping

9 posted on 12/15/2023 4:02:06 AM PST by GOPJ (Gutfeld: we 'get the jokes' but sometimes we're caught up with what you're saying -it's a compliment)
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To: Tench_Coxe

“trying to overturn the 2020 Election results”
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I hate that narrative the dems foisted on us…and it stuck.
What’s wrong with trying to right a wrong? We feel cheated and wronged and want answers. Not one bit of evidence has been presented to back the dems claims that this election was fair and no cheating happened.


10 posted on 12/15/2023 4:29:37 AM PST by lilypad
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To: Tench_Coxe

After Trump wins, he should put the word out that the Jan 6 political prisoners should file a class action lawsuit against the DOJ.

Then Trump should force the DOJ to admit its culpability and offer a GENEROUS cash settlement to all those who were unjustly charged with crimes and/or imprisoned.

Then Trump should use the DOJ’s admission which he forced them to issue as grounds to go in there and clean out the DOJ and FIB with a flamethrower.


11 posted on 12/15/2023 4:30:17 AM PST by FLT-bird
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To: Tench_Coxe

IIRC the charge of “obstructing an official proceeding” was never meant to apply the way they’re applying it. It was meant for stuff like withholding documents from an investigatory committee. The J6 prosecutors have stretched its meaning way beyond the original intent. I wonder if SCOTUS might consider it from this angle.


12 posted on 12/15/2023 4:32:29 AM PST by Yardstick
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And in any case, it would be too late for Matthew Perna.

The jail staff and dem politicians should have to draw straws to see who gets executed to pay for that terribly sad outcome.

13 posted on 12/15/2023 4:54:18 AM PST by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: FroggyTheGremlim

(The Federalist—circa 2022) The inspector general for the U.S. Capitol Police (USCP) has opened a formal investigation into whether the law enforcement agency tasked with securing the Capitol has been inappropriately surveilling elected members of Congress, their staff, and visitors to their offices, The Federalist has learned.

The opening of the investigation follows news reports and accusations from lawmakers that USCP has overstepped its bounds as it tries to recover from the January 6 riots that tarnished both the Capitol and the reputation of the law enforcement agency that was supposed to keep it safe.

Related - Pelosi’s Capitol Police are alleged to have illegally entered the office of Congressman Troy Nehls (R-TX), photographing confidential legislative products and grilling staff, according to reports. The police – now under formal investigation – stand accused of dressing up as construction workers and attempting another entry just two days later. Reports suggest Capitol Police have built intelligence dossiers on those illegally investigated.

OBSERVATION - Pelosi has converted the Capitol police into her how personal stazi. The incidents are egregious. Should the democrats lose the house in November, the incoming republicans should clean house an have heads roll (figuratively). This is another step taking govt agencies and targeting protected activity of citizens and their representatives.

Related, Representative Louie Gohmert has accused the DoJ of intercepting mail from his constituents and illegally holding it. In one case, mail was withheld from the Congressman for over four months. “It is gravely concerning that since Congressional mail is constitutionally protected under the Speech and Debate Clause of the Constitution, it could be routed, intentionally or not, through the highly partisan DOJ. This is felonious behavior.”

OVERALL OBSERVATIONS - These heinous Capitol police and DOJ actions point to a more aggressive move by the Biden/leftist govt against US citizens. If a CW2 scenario goes hot, the likelihood of active involvement by govt agencies skyrocket. It ceases to be a more “culture conflict” between Red and Blue, but hate-filled Biden’s Fed Govt vs Red States and American citizens in Red States.



On Fox News, Sonya LaBosco, Biden’s Director of the Air Marshals National Council said Air Marshals are quietly following Americans who flew into the DC area around Jan 6, 2021.

Vengeful Biden’s TSA has now ordered Air Marshals (who are DOT employes w/ no L/E duties):
<><>to follow J6 people who have not had any type of criminal investigation –
<><>they haven’t committed a crime,
<><>there is no evidence their J6 attendance was illegal,
<><>now three years later Biden insists they are to be followed 24/7.

The Fox News host weighed in, “You’re saying Air Marshals aren’t…tracking terrorists at all?”

HAMAS is laughing so hard they’re rolling on the floor while planning their next moves in the US...



A new J6 committee should be formed to subpoena Pelosi..... and her daughter ......who was apparently privy to the facts of the Dem’s J6 conspiracy. The daughter was videotaping Pelosi to get her mother’s biased take on the events in order to display them to the original J6 committee.

As we saw w/ Trump, the new thing is to rake the children over the coals.

Video footage, recorded by Pelosi’s daughter, Alexandra, a documentary filmmaker, showed Pelosi and Schumer on the scene, dithering about what to do.

The video was shown during the J6 committee’s 10th hearing as an alleged illustration of President Trump’s supposed “inaction” WRT the peaceful protesters and the cowardly Dem lawmakers who were hiding.

We demand a new J6 committee subpoenaing Pelosi, her staff, Capitol
Police leadership, Ray Epps, Chris Wray..........and dozens of others,

Contact
Committee On Oversight and Accountability
Rep James Comer, Chair
2157 Rayburn House Office Building
Washington, DC 20515
Phone: (202) 225-5074
Fax: (202) 225-3974


14 posted on 12/15/2023 7:00:47 AM PST by Liz (Women have tremendous power — their femininity, because men can't do without it. Sidney Sheldon)
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