Posted on 12/11/2023 4:51:35 PM PST by delta7
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“That old tale again.”
Do you believe the Holocaust really happened?
Is Vance going to invade to enforce this?
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Zelensky got a Heroes welcome!
Vance is what one of 5?
The Ukraine Money 💰 is a done deal, again!
The only saving grace to this entire goat rope is that Putin does not want all of Ukraine - just a slice.
The terms of surrender will be hard to swallow after all the death and destruction since they will much more severe that the terms two weeks into the conflict over a year ago but at least the Ukraine will probably not be over run.
There’s a word for that post: APOPHENIA
If they attack a NATO country, it is WWIII, which no one can win except China.
It is pure BS to invoke another Domino Theory. It was the same kind of rationale used to get us involved in Vietnam.
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“ Maybe it’s one of USMC’s Moms kids…”
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Don’t insult the Marines…. it’s ‘UMC Mom’. ;-)
Zelenskyy has decided to offer Ohio to Russia. That should make Senator Vance happy.
Welcome to FR Newby!
Whose soldiers are you trying to save?
They won’t. And the crease fire is meaning to be another Minsk style ruse.
Merkel literally said it was was is nothing but a chance to build up forces. It was a lie and a scam. Just like negotiations now for a cease-fire are designed to take the pressure off Ukraine, and turn it into what they call a frozen conflict like Korea. Ukraine will not relinquish their dubious claim to Crimea and the Donbass. But they are on the ropes right now.
The scam now is to get a cease-fire, then without risk, NATO led by us and the Brits, intends to flood Ukraine with all the military equipment we can get, fighter squadrons, as many missiles as we can buy from Raytheon, ammo, tracks etc. Then we will conclude a NATO-lite defense pact with Ukraine, if not outright membership. We would flood the country with advisors and trainers...after all, there is no conflict at that point, right? That will make any Russian attack on building nazi forces as an attack on NATO.
But we will not end the sanctions or return the cash, bullion, or looted yachts and real estate. We will not rebuild and restart Nordstream. Also, even if Ukraine agrees to a cease fire, they will keep up with the SBU terror attacks and assassinations and everyone knows it.
It is in the Russian interest to keep shooting.
“How does an American congress critter get to dictate Ukraine’s policy on its defense?”
Because he pays for it, that’s why. The borrower/beggar (Ukraine) does not set the policy, the lender (US) does.
One square inch is too much.
Let Russia keep Crimea, and let them take Luhansk and Donetsk. Ukraine gets back Kherson and Zaporizhia. Everyone stop fighting and retreat to separate corners. All POWs and other peoples returned.
End sanctions, and Russia can sell gas and oil to Europe again. A percentage of those sales goes to rebuild destroyed buildings and infrastructure in both parts—Donbass and Ukraine.
No dictates on government makeup or alliances.
Merkel and her WEF EU allies “literally” continued business as almost usual with Putin after he stole Crimea at gunpoint including, of course, building the Nordstream2 pipeline opposed by nearly every EU country in the region. But don’t let the historical facts get in the way of your dogma.
Where can I git me an autographed pic of Denys riding in the jumpseat of that 737 on his way to Switzerland?
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