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Banning fossil fuels is now a make-or-break issue at climate talks
The Washington Post via MSN ^ | December 10, 2023 | by Chico Harlan, Timothy Puko

Posted on 12/10/2023 7:39:53 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

DUBAI — For 30 years, with temperatures and sea levels rising, global negotiators have managed to discuss the health of the planet without addressing the root cause of the problem. In meeting after meeting, document after document, even in the landmark 2015 Paris agreement, one phrase has been conspicuously absent: any mention of fossil fuels.

“This is really difficult stuff. We are talking about the future of humanity, the future of economic structures and geopolitics,” said Hana AlHashimi, the lead negotiator for the United Arab Emirates.

U.S. climate envoy John F. Kerry has said that Washington supports language “requiring the phaseout of unabated fossil fuels, and we will continue to support that language.”

Many climate experts say a long-range target for a fossil fuel phasedown — say, mid-century — won’t be as meaningful as a pledge to wean off dirty fuel more quickly. Climate science shows that the next several years are crucial.

Continued use of fossil fuels — paired with carbon capture and storage, or CCS — is probably necessary for those industries to operate, but that is not a panacea, said officials including Wopke Hoekstra, the European commissioner for climate action.

“The reality we need to face and actually embrace is that we have to phase out fossil fuels, period. And that we do our utmost, that we come up with very ambitious language at this COP,” Hoekstra said at a news conference on Friday.

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1 posted on 12/10/2023 7:39:53 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Let’s say we’ll “phase” it out around 2100.


2 posted on 12/10/2023 7:41:05 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

It says “read more at msn”. No thanks. If I’m going to read fiction I’d at least like it to be entertaining not raving lunacy from climate fanatics who combine the worst aspects of willful ignorance and stupidity.


3 posted on 12/10/2023 7:43:54 PM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy - EVs a solution for which there is no problem)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Ocean rising, temperature rising, aha. panic mode!, not


4 posted on 12/10/2023 7:48:05 PM PST by norsky (<P> <a href= > </a> <P><h3> <P><img src=" "width=500"></img>)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

So say Chico and Puko. LOL.


5 posted on 12/10/2023 7:48:47 PM PST by nwrep
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To: norsky
Ocean rising, temperature rising, aha. panic mode!, not

How about we just hold back the panic until Obama's Vineyard mansion gets a bit of flooding.

6 posted on 12/10/2023 7:53:35 PM PST by ALPAPilot
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

There’s no such a thing as a fossil fuel.


7 posted on 12/10/2023 7:54:14 PM PST by joe fonebone (And the people said NO! The End)
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To: norsky

“with temperatures and sea levels rising”

There was a guy who asked students why, if ocean levels are rising, are banks giving 30 year mortgages for beachfront condominiums?

Since they have a fiduciary responsibility to shareholders why would they lend money for properties that will soon be underwater (literally and figuratively)?

Why would Obama buy a house beside the water? Shouldn’t he be in Colorado, safe from the impending doom?


8 posted on 12/10/2023 7:55:49 PM PST by packagingguy
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I’m assuming this is all via videoconferencing, right? Don’t want any carbon emissions from all those jets or ground transportation, right?


9 posted on 12/10/2023 8:06:54 PM PST by matt04 ( )
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

It’s not about the future of humanity.
It’s about the future of government.
They are lying about everything. There is no “Climate Crisis”.
They are systematically eliminating every source of energy except Green Energy, which they will control. It will give government absolute power over every person in the world. If you don’t comply, you will be coerced.
They don’t care how much it costs, what damage they do to the economy, or how many people will suffer or perish. The end result is worth all the suffering they cause people all over the globe.
Power is always what these left wing nuts are after, and if they get away with this, the world will become a gigantic prison.


10 posted on 12/10/2023 8:13:07 PM PST by Thapsus_epiphany (Socialism is a prison, Communism is a death camp )
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Anyone want to take a guess as to the kind of lifestyle EU Klimafuhrer Hoekstra leads.


11 posted on 12/10/2023 8:14:26 PM PST by Long Jon No Silver (Rrily)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
All the pressure is on the USA and Europe. It's all BS.


12 posted on 12/10/2023 8:14:45 PM PST by Boomer (The Long Winter is coming...)
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To: packagingguy

+101


13 posted on 12/10/2023 8:27:14 PM PST by lightman (I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
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To: wattojawa

Ping a ling.


14 posted on 12/10/2023 8:28:23 PM PST by lightman (I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
1977 Climate Activist 1:22
15 posted on 12/10/2023 8:53:03 PM PST by TigersEye (Our Republic is under seige by globalist Marxists. Hold fast!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

the real danger is the government solution


16 posted on 12/10/2023 8:57:59 PM PST by joshua c (to disrupt the system, we must disrupt our lives, cut the cable tv)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Of course by “unabated” they mean there will still be a supply for them to fill up their private jets and yachts on the tax payer dollars.


17 posted on 12/10/2023 9:07:10 PM PST by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eye)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

wood fired steam engines are the future. use pre-fossil fuel. fresh cut wood is green energy.


18 posted on 12/10/2023 9:21:02 PM PST by Waverunner
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

No such thing as a “fossil fuel.” Petroleum, yes.


19 posted on 12/10/2023 9:31:48 PM PST by DennisR (Look around - God gives countless clues that He does, indeed, exist .)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Maybe rather around year 21,000?


20 posted on 12/10/2023 9:50:52 PM PST by AZJeep
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