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Wisconsin judge rules preborn children cannot be protected using 1849 law
Live Action News ^ | December 7, 2023 | Cassy Fiano-Chesser

Posted on 12/07/2023 8:39:03 PM PST by Morgana

A Wisconsin judge has ruled that an 1849 law does not actually protect preborn children from abortion, setting up a potential challenge in the state Supreme Court. Dane County Circuit Judge Diane Schlipper ruled that the 174-year-old law applies to feticide (an act of homicide against a fetus committed by someone other than the child’s mother), but not abortion (initiated by the child’s mother).

The statute is worded: Any person, other than the mother, who intentionally destroys the life of an unborn child is guilty of a Class H felony. Yet Schlipper said that this wording referred to someone attacking a pregnant woman and causing a miscarriage rather than abortion.

WARNING: Disturbing photos below.

Wisconsin Attorney General Josh Kaul previously sued to block prosecution of the law, and he celebrated Schlipper’s ruling in a statement. “Freedom wins. Equality wins. Women’s health wins,” he said. “This ruling is a momentous victory, and we are prepared to defend it — and reproductive freedom in Wisconsin.”

Apparently, this is “freedom,” “equality,” and “women’s health”:

With the ruling, Wisconsin will return to its laws prior to the Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization ruling, which overturned Roe v. Wade. Abortion will now be legal through 20 weeks gestation.

Planned Parenthood, the country’s largest abortion organization, has already announced that it will begin committing abortions again, “as soon as possible.”

Wisconsin Right to Life legislative director Gracie Skogman slammed the ruling, calling it “truly disappointing.”

The case is expected to make its way to the Wisconsin Supreme Court, which Julaine Appling — president of Wisconsin Family Action — said she looks forward to. “This doesn’t change anything about what we’re doing,” she said. “We are about a culture of life, and we’re going to promote that and do everything we can to help people to understand that we are about saving babies, but we’re also about making sure women are fully informed about this life-taking decision, about options they have, about consequences and encouraging them to explore that, and be very, very careful before they make a decision to have an abortion.”

Previously, she pointed out that the 1849 law has never actually been repealed. “No court has ruled that it is not enforceable,” Appling said. “It is still illegal in most instances for anyone to do an abortion in Wisconsin. So what the governor and Planned Parenthood are doing is promoting an illegal activity. Unfortunately, this illegal activity is life-taking because it’s the intentional killing of an unborn child.”

Sheboygan County District Attorney Joel Urmanski has already issued a statement saying he disagreed with the ruling, and announcing his plans to appeal. The city of Sheboygan is home to one of the three Planned Parenthood facilities in Wisconsin.

“As I have previously stated, I believe that, properly interpreted, the statute at issue prohibits performing abortions (including consensual abortions) unless the exception for abortions necessary to save the life of the mother applies,” he said in his statement. “The Dane County Circuit Court has held otherwise, and I am obligated to comply with that ruling unless the decision is stayed pending appeal or ultimately reversed. To be clear, I disagree with and intend to appeal the decision. In my view, the statute plainly applies to abortions and, while it may be that the citizens of the State of Wisconsin would be better served by a different statute, I do not believe it is my job or the role of the courts to make that determination. It is an issue for the Legislature and the Governor to resolve.”


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: abortion; babykiller; bs; dianeschlipper; ghouls; murder; prolife; wisconsin
Anyone here from Wisconsin and and give us more info on this?
1 posted on 12/07/2023 8:39:03 PM PST by Morgana
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To: Morgana

Sorry, first I’ve heard of it.


2 posted on 12/07/2023 8:42:36 PM PST by grey_whiskers ( The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Morgana

I’m sorry, “moms” should definitely be included under this law.


3 posted on 12/07/2023 8:45:47 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

I agree.


4 posted on 12/07/2023 8:46:18 PM PST by No name given (Anonymous is who you’ll know me as)
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To: Morgana
Dane County judge rules 19th century law does not ban abortions in Wisconsin....


5 posted on 12/07/2023 8:49:01 PM PST by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......)
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To: grey_whiskers

Planned Parenthood behind this.


6 posted on 12/07/2023 8:49:32 PM PST by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......)
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To: Morgana

To expect any other outcome from a Dane County judge would be like expecting the sun to rise in the north.


7 posted on 12/07/2023 8:51:12 PM PST by bigbob
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To: caww

It’s Dane County home of Madison


8 posted on 12/07/2023 9:02:38 PM PST by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: bigbob
Dane County, the Berkeley of the Midwest.

It seems to me that the judge is saying that the woman performing an abortion on herself is safe haven.

It still doesn't get the third-party abortionist off the hook.

But reality has no meaning in our third-world banana republic.

9 posted on 12/07/2023 9:15:48 PM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: caww
I wonder if she has ever washed her hair before... 🤔
10 posted on 12/07/2023 10:09:17 PM PST by Bikkuri (I am proud to be a PureBlood.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Whether it should or should not, it clearly applies to anyone who is not the mother, such as a doctor.


11 posted on 12/07/2023 11:04:35 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Morgana

All part of a well constructed plan to spool up the abortion issue to a fever pitch in front of the 2024 election.


12 posted on 12/07/2023 11:43:46 PM PST by Obadiah
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To: Obadiah

Murdering babies in order to maintain political power...beyond sick.


13 posted on 12/07/2023 11:46:36 PM PST by who knows what evil?
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To: Secret Agent Man
I’m sorry, “moms” should definitely be included under this law.

Um, they are. The second phrase is directly applicable to mom: "other than the mother,". As others have mentioned, the judge is half-correct here. The literally wording of the law clearly allows mom to kill her kid (absent any other applicable law), but if anyone else helps, it's a felony for them.
14 posted on 12/08/2023 12:47:29 AM PST by Svartalfiar
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To: Secret Agent Man

Oh - are we still a nation of laws?


15 posted on 12/08/2023 12:52:57 AM PST by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......)
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To: caww

Now we are more a nation of lawfare.


16 posted on 12/08/2023 1:27:08 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Bikkuri
I wonder if she has ever washed her hair before...

Yes. Sometime in the 19th Century. That's a nasty look she has going.

17 posted on 12/08/2023 2:07:24 AM PST by BlackbirdSST (Trump or Bust! Long live the Republic.)
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To: Secret Agent Man; Morgana

I agree, and unfortunately, most allegedly pro-life organizations insist that all allegedly pro-life laws include exceptions for the mothers of the babies, making it perfectly legal for the mothers to murder the babies between conception and birth.


18 posted on 12/08/2023 2:53:47 PM PST by Arcadian Empire (The Baric-Daszak-Fauci spike protein, by itself, is deadly.)
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To: Svartalfiar; Morgana

Please explain why allegedly pro-life organizations insist that mothers should be allowed to murder babies, since allegedly pro-life organizations insist that all laws about abortions exempt mothers from legal penalties, and laws without legal penalties are just recommendations.


19 posted on 12/08/2023 2:58:59 PM PST by Arcadian Empire (The Baric-Daszak-Fauci spike protein, by itself, is deadly.)
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To: caww

I agree with the left. Abortion at any time.

Let’s start with this judge.


20 posted on 12/08/2023 3:03:01 PM PST by Fledermaus (It's time to get rid of the Three McStooges; Mitch, Kevin and Ronna! 1 gone, 1 almost dead. )
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