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The FBI took $86 million from safe deposit boxes. An appeals court will decide if that's constitutional
Fox News ^ | December 7, 2023 | Hannah Ray Lambert

Posted on 12/07/2023 4:20:57 PM PST by george76

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To: george76

Part of the attraction of forfeiture for criminal justice agencies is that the results are usually treated as found money and assets exempt from normal budgeting processes. The result can be anything from special bonuses to agents to clear abuses like a police chief getting to drive a hot new muscle car as his “official” vehicle, 24/7.


21 posted on 12/07/2023 5:12:40 PM PST by Rockingham (`)
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To: george76

It’ll disappear long before then


22 posted on 12/07/2023 5:14:34 PM PST by bigbob
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We are lucky they let us peasants keep ANYTHING.

(For now. Soon we will be allowed to “Own Nothing”)


23 posted on 12/07/2023 5:16:26 PM PST by LegendHasIt
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To: george76

The FBI is thoroughly corrupt. It’s become the American KGB


24 posted on 12/07/2023 5:20:45 PM PST by wny
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To: george76

Someone we know got robbed by a cop in a small town in a southern state. Got a lawyer and sued for a lot more than the cop reported taking from him. He lost the lawsuit of course. But the cop lost his job and that was the real point of the lawsuit.


25 posted on 12/07/2023 5:30:34 PM PST by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: george76

See what happens when someone’s budget gets cut?


26 posted on 12/07/2023 5:35:16 PM PST by fruser1
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To: Reverend Wright

Time to go back to burying your gold and silver. It’s that stage of the cycle.


27 posted on 12/07/2023 5:44:58 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

Looks like it.

I’ve stored watches at the jeweller I bought them from when I wasn’t wearing them.

I guess for people in the USA that would also have the risk of this.


28 posted on 12/07/2023 6:09:22 PM PST by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: george76

It is theft.


29 posted on 12/07/2023 6:22:45 PM PST by I want the USA back (Democracy dies when you take away from those who work and give to those who won't. Khrushchev.)
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To: Gen.Blather

They’ll seize it now because it’s not in a bank.

Civil forfeiture is just theft.

Yet another stupid law for the war on drugs.

I hate drugs but the spying, theft, and murder by cops of innocents is worse. I could care less if a bunch of junkies die. They’ll take drugs no matter what you do. I shouldn’t give up my freedom to keep a worthless junkie from killing himsdlf.


30 posted on 12/07/2023 6:35:34 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Sometimes There Is No Lesser Of Two Evils)
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To: george76

FBI is a criminal domestic terrorist organization. Jury nullification against all FBI cases. The presumption is that FBI fabricated, bullied witnesses and violated defendants rights.
Vote no against FBI in all federal cases if on federal jury.
These FBI agents should really be in prison.


31 posted on 12/07/2023 6:37:32 PM PST by grumpygresh (Civil disobedience by non-compliance; jury and state nullification. )
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To: george76
This was a really egregious violation.

The warrant specifically said they were to inventory but could not confiscate anything in the boxes. Nothing.

They expressly DID NOT inventory and confiscated everything they could get their grubby mitts on.

They are now telling the owners that they can have some of their stuff back (because the FBI says they LOST it) if they will sign part of it over to the government.

However bad you think this was, it is far worse.

32 posted on 12/07/2023 6:40:00 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Keep America Beautiful by keeping Canadian Trash Out. Deport Jennifer Granholm!)
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To: frank ballenger

The FBI? How many believe 100% of the loot is safely in storage as opposed to having been pawed over, and some safely in private collections?


33 posted on 12/07/2023 6:41:05 PM PST by healy61 (.)
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To: Rowdyone
But the worst part is that if you sue the corrupt FBI/DOJ to recover your assets you have to prove the amount of the asset and how you obtained it. Which is assets backwards constitutionality.

Yep, absolutely tyrannical. I saw a story about one guy, a marine veteran, who was moving from one state to the next and was driving down an interstate that was a known drug trafficking route. His crime, he went over the line, or so the cop said, and was pulled over. He consented to a search which should not have but they found 80K (his life savings) in cash which they promptly seized with no charge, I don't even think a traffic violation. It took him 3 years to get it back because he had to prove it out.

34 posted on 12/07/2023 7:00:03 PM PST by frogjerk (More people have died trusting the government than not trusting the government.)
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To: Rowdyone

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkeS_0NQUZs


35 posted on 12/07/2023 7:01:19 PM PST by frogjerk (More people have died trusting the government than not trusting the government.)
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To: george76

“Rank and file are good guys.”


36 posted on 12/07/2023 8:30:47 PM PST by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eye)
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To: george76

There are no limits to tyranny...
There is no end in sight!


37 posted on 12/07/2023 8:55:56 PM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is the next Sam Adams when we so desperately need him)
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To: george76

The FBI is one of the largest criminal organizations in the country.

Hard to believe this particular story hasn’t played out. I recall when news broke about them stealing the property of all these people. They made almost no effort at all to document anything. It was just simple theft. I wonder how much gold walked away in the thieve’s pockets.


38 posted on 12/08/2023 6:36:21 AM PST by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: george76

In a couple of my social dealings with cops or district attorneys of my acquaintance back in the 90s, I learned that taking “nickel bags” or other seized property from the “evidence closet” was considered a perk, or a fund-raiser.


39 posted on 12/08/2023 6:41:57 AM PST by Albion Wilde (Either ‘the Deep State destroys America, or we destroy the Deep State.’ --Donald Trump)
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To: Albion Wilde
In a couple of my social dealings with cops or district attorneys of my acquaintance back in the 90s, I learned that taking “nickel bags” or other seized property from the “evidence closet” was considered a perk, or a fund-raiser.

The ole 80/20 rule. 20% are corrupt unethical losers.

40 posted on 12/08/2023 6:43:40 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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