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How Italy’s far-right leader learned to stop worrying and love migration
Politico ^ | Aug 30, 2023 | Jacopo Barigazzi

Posted on 12/06/2023 3:01:30 AM PST by Reverend Wright

Before becoming Italian prime minister, Giorgia Meloni was one of the most strident voices on migration in the European Union. As an opposition politician, she warned darkly of efforts to substitute native Italians with ethnic minorities and promised to put in place a naval blockade to stop migrants crossing the Mediterranean.

During her time in office, she has taken a markedly different tack — presiding over a sharp spike in irregular arrivals and introducing legislation that could see as many as 1.5 million new migrants arrive through legal channels.

Coming at a time when the right and far right are in ascendance ahead of the European Parliament election next spring, Meloni’s policies represent an important course correction for the Continent’s conservative bloc, as fiery rhetoric yields to the cold practicalities of governing.

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.eu ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: immigration; italy
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To: ansel12

“but you open-borders guys will use any racist argument in the book.”

Let me make a helpful recommendation - you should practice your reading and comprehension skills more.

If you had you would have not made a fool of yourself by making ridiculous accusations.

I imagine you’ll be voting for Trump, right? But according to you, he too is an open border guy, just like me.


21 posted on 12/06/2023 7:48:31 AM PST by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: aquila48

LOL, it looks like you don’t know anything about this issue and have a brainwashed 15-year-old’s woke cliched outlook on it.


22 posted on 12/06/2023 7:52:00 AM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: ansel12

You really should have taken my advice. I feel bad when people make fools of themselves.

By the way, are you or aren’t you going to vote for for that open border guy Trump?


23 posted on 12/06/2023 7:57:03 AM PST by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: aquila48

You obviously know nothing about this issue, and as is usual in that situation, you go with same old juvenile lefty arguments “what about the indians man.......” “your people were immigrants too man.....” to justify your open borders sentimentality.


24 posted on 12/06/2023 8:20:51 AM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: ansel12

Now, stop being a weasel and answer my question - will you be voting for that open border Trump, or not?


25 posted on 12/06/2023 8:29:21 AM PST by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: aquila48

You really don’t understand the issue, so you go for nastiness.

Between the two major parties, which candidate do you think the people who want to end immigration will vote for?


26 posted on 12/06/2023 8:42:49 AM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: Reverend Wright

They have a lot of chinese workers there making Italian products. One of the reasons covid also started there.


27 posted on 12/06/2023 8:43:48 AM PST by US_MilitaryRules (#PureBloodlaw enforcement. )
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To: ansel12

Am I to conclude that after all that jabbering about open borders you’re still going to vote for that open border guy Trump? That means you would even vote for me!

Have you no self respect? Are you that hypocritical? 😃


28 posted on 12/06/2023 8:59:13 AM PST by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: aquila48

I think you have revealed yourself enough.


29 posted on 12/06/2023 9:05:22 AM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: ansel12

You are so right. Time to end all immigration and begin expelling people here illegally.


30 posted on 12/06/2023 9:09:49 AM PST by WashingtonSource
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To: ansel12

Are you sure you don’t want to continue playing? I was just starting to have a little fun.


31 posted on 12/06/2023 9:11:19 AM PST by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: WashingtonSource

If we had the political will it would be easy but the left has imported so many people since they started this under JFK that there is no “we” anymore.


32 posted on 12/06/2023 9:18:53 AM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: Ge0ffrey
Going to kind of disagree with you.

While you are correct at the one or two percent stage once you reach the ten to twenty percent stage there really is not.

When over ten percent of your population is foreign born it no longer matters if they come in legally or illegally. They are not going to assimilate to your culture, they will build enclaves of their culture and in the end there will be conflict.

So if you want to keep your culture keeping it at under two percent and spreading them out is what you want to do. Their children will assimilate to the dominate culture (yours) a few bits of theirs will find it's way smoothly into yours and things will be peaceful.

Otherwise you will have war.

33 posted on 12/06/2023 9:23:51 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Keep America Beautiful by keeping Canadian Trash Out. Deport Jennifer Granholm!)
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To: Reverend Wright

Some ignorant people think some immigrants created the United States of America rather than British citizens creating it from a revolution against their nation’s rule and then put out a welcome sign to the world saying “all you immigrants of the world, come on in”.

For almost the first half century of America when our founding generations ruled this land, we averaged about 6,000 immigrants per year.


34 posted on 12/06/2023 9:52:54 AM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: ansel12

The same people who created the “nation of immigrants” concept are also the ones who created the “propositional nation” nonsense and then pretended it applied backwards in time to the founding of the Republic.

The other ridiculous part of this is the group who says a mass Third World demographic takeover is fine as long as it is LEGAL IMMIGRATION.

So then you get like Canada, with 1 million plus per year “legal” Third World immigrants for a population of 40 million.


35 posted on 12/06/2023 10:27:26 AM PST by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: ansel12

To clarify, the Americans who created America did not put out a welcome mat to the world, if you look at those numbers of about 6,000 a year, it is obvious America was not founded as a dumping ground for the world’s populations.


36 posted on 12/06/2023 10:27:27 AM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: aquila48

I am against any and all for a minimum of 10 years!


37 posted on 12/06/2023 10:34:47 AM PST by workerbee (==)
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To: Ge0ffrey

There’s a big difference between legal and illegal immigration.


After they are amnestied, what is the difference ?

It is still a Third World takeover.


38 posted on 12/06/2023 10:35:41 AM PST by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: aquila48; All

“that could see as many as 1.5 million new migrants arrive through legal channels.”

The operative word is “LEGAL”!


So a Third World invasion is fine as long as it is “LEGAL” ?

That’s what Justin Trudeau is doing with a million immigrants a year imposed on a population of 40 million.

In 20 years they will have replaced half the country.


39 posted on 12/06/2023 10:41:25 AM PST by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: Reverend Wright

The illegals don’t have to be legislatively given amnesty, once they become such a large and routine portion of who your nation is then they are almost impossible to impose control over.

Many of us live in states where we have no idea who is legal or illegal, we just know that almost everyone around us and in our neighborhoods are foreigners and that we are becoming irrelevant to the government office seekers and lawmakers.


40 posted on 12/06/2023 11:08:58 AM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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