[Gay State Conservative]

I've spent a fair amount of time there (including recently),that being true largely because I once dated a South African woman. I hope I'm wrong but I'd be willing to bet just about everything I own that South Africa is lost...that there is no hope for that nation.

Yes,it would take a while to explain my position but the single biggest reason for my pessimism is corruption...particularly among government officials.

[bert]

The reason South Africa is lost is simply because it is now a Black nation.