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White House warns Congress the US is out of money, nearly out of time to avoid ‘kneecap’ to Ukraine
NY Post ^ | 12/04/2023 | AP

Posted on 12/04/2023 6:56:03 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27

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To: flamberge

The EU countries have also been bullied….err persuaded….to allot financial support to Ukraine, as well as buying weapons to send there
Hungary and Slovakia have now balked at another infusion


21 posted on 12/04/2023 7:31:38 AM PST by silverleaf (“Inside Every Progressive Is A Totalitarian Screaming To Get Out” —David Horowitz)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

“Cry Me A River”


22 posted on 12/04/2023 7:32:35 AM PST by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS-REMEMBER REV. NIEMOLLER)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

This is Biden trying to shift the blame of his foolhardiness to Republicans in pushing Zelensky to the negotiation table earlier billions of military aid dollars ago in a lost cause and thus losing less territory than he will have to lose now to end this.


23 posted on 12/04/2023 7:33:26 AM PST by chuckee
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To: ChicagoConservative27

so money wins wars and not boots on the ground , we’ve been doing it wrong all these years


24 posted on 12/04/2023 7:36:10 AM PST by butlerweave
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To: tlozo
So you're saying then that we, the US, are at war with Russia?

A straight yes we are, or no we are not answer, please.

25 posted on 12/04/2023 7:36:25 AM PST by OKSooner ("You won't like what comes after America." - Leonard Cohen.)
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To: tlozo

“Right, destroying our enemies military without one US injury or death is not a worthwhile goal. US spent 5% of its military budget(Donating mostly older weapons) to destroy half of Russia’s capability with the help of Ukraine.”

This faulty reasoning is what it is coming down to. What’s going to stop the Russians from building more weapons?


26 posted on 12/04/2023 7:36:36 AM PST by rxh4n1
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To: central_va

No…Russia is in Crimea and Donbass to stay. Maybe more territory if the Ukes don’t end it soon. Hence the urgency for Ukraine to “ defend” its current positions

but don’t rule out that the ultimate settlement of this conflict will involve back channel negotiations over financial considerations in the interests of all parties


27 posted on 12/04/2023 7:36:59 AM PST by silverleaf (“Inside Every Progressive Is A Totalitarian Screaming To Get Out” —David Horowitz)
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To: silverleaf
The EU countries have also been bullied

LOL, sure Poland, Finland, the Baltics, etc were "bullied" or more accurately they remember Russian aggression.


28 posted on 12/04/2023 7:39:42 AM PST by tlozo ( Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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To: OKSooner
So you're saying then that we, the US, are at war with Russia? A straight yes we are, or no we are not answer, please.

Its called a proxy war, look it up.

29 posted on 12/04/2023 7:41:07 AM PST by tlozo ( Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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To: rxh4n1
This faulty reasoning is what it is coming down to. What’s going to stop the Russians from building more weapons?

Sure, why do we ever bother to fight wars, the enemy can always "build more weapons". Okay

30 posted on 12/04/2023 7:42:56 AM PST by tlozo ( Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Maybe the crooked politicians who have stolen much of the money can dip into their private accounts to fund the war.


31 posted on 12/04/2023 7:50:44 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants ( "It is easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled."- Mark Twain)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Not. One .More. Cent. Ever. Again.


32 posted on 12/04/2023 7:57:38 AM PST by Rocco DiPippo (Either the Deep State destroys America or we destroy the Deep State. -Donald Trump)
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To: tlozo

You mean, they remember why the Germans and Euros in prior centuries have always failed on the battlefield to kick Russian a$$ into defeat……. and are eager to mix it up for Ukraine and give Russia the ol’ NATO go?

It just takes
money ( lots of that)
Tanks …lots
Artillery….lotser
Air support of course, easy peasy, set up no fly over Europe and 1/3 of the RF
Troops …lots and lots of those
Alternative to Russian gas

After all the USA has their backs…just look at Biden’s track record


33 posted on 12/04/2023 8:06:13 AM PST by silverleaf (“Inside Every Progressive Is A Totalitarian Screaming To Get Out” —David Horowitz)
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To: tlozo

“Sure, why do we ever bother to fight wars, the enemy can always “build more weapons”. Okay”

That’s right. They’ll always rebuild. Didn’t know we were at war with Russia yet. The war is going to end soon, and the Russians will just build more. We will have wasted a lot of money and achieved nothing.


34 posted on 12/04/2023 8:08:34 AM PST by rxh4n1
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To: tlozo

When was this “Proxy” war declared?


35 posted on 12/04/2023 8:10:42 AM PST by OKSooner ("You won't like what comes after America." - Leonard Cohen.)
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To: tlozo

forcing a war instead of forcing peace will never contain it either.


36 posted on 12/04/2023 8:12:09 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (I didn't come here to guide lambs, but to awaken lions - 🦅MAGADONIAN⚔️)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

I think the speaker was very clear, close the border and enforce the current polices AND get funding. The border is wide open, not one additional penny of funding. Very simple, even a demented old man and his handlers can understand.


37 posted on 12/04/2023 8:14:26 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: OKSooner
When was this “Proxy” war declared?

When did Reagan declare a proxy war against the Soviets when he sent weapons to the mujaheddin?

38 posted on 12/04/2023 8:14:36 AM PST by tlozo ( Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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To: rxh4n1
“Sure, why do we ever bother to fight wars, the enemy can always “build more weapons”. Okay”

That’s right. They’ll always rebuild... We will have wasted a lot of money and achieved nothing.

That's childlike reasoning. The Soviets for instance, were forced to leave Afghanistan which led to the collapse of the USSR.

39 posted on 12/04/2023 8:19:08 AM PST by tlozo ( Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
forcing a war instead of forcing peace will never contain it either.

Sure, always "force peace" on the attacked. Is that your position with Israel?

40 posted on 12/04/2023 8:20:39 AM PST by tlozo ( Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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