Posted on 12/02/2023 5:11:07 PM PST by SeekAndFind
It feeds into everything that’s been reported about Israel’s Arab neighbors and why they don’t want Palestinian refugees roaming wild in their country: they bring trouble. The late King Hussein had to declare war on them and successfully drove them out.
The problem is the Palestinian Liberation Organization set up shop in Lebanon, where they caused problems for the government while also attacking Israel from the southern part of the country. Israel had to invade in 1982 and remained in Southern Lebanon until 2000. Egypt has closed its border with the Gaza Strip in Rafah due to terrorism concerns.
In the days after the brutal October 7 attacks executed by Hamas, Egypt knew what was going to happen. They deployed tanks to the border while their prime minister vowed that his country would sacrifice millions to keep their borders safe. He was not referring to Israel. So, what’s the latest? Well, Haaretz is reporting that Israel’s Arab neighbors are telling Jerusalem privately that they shouldn’t stop military operations until Hamas has been annihilated. They view them as a domestic threat:
Sources have reportedly told Haaretz that almost every Arab Leader during “Behind-the-Scenes Talks” with Israeli Officials including several Gulf States have told them not to End the War with Hamas until the Terrorist Organization is Totally Destroyed with many seeing Hamas as a Domestic Enemy.
Source: https://t.co/vxOBd0XOgQ— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) December 2, 2023
This act of making noise publicly but more reasoned discussion behind the scenes among Arab leaders happened in early November, when they gathered in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, to discuss the ongoing Gaza War. There was a lot of talking condemnation of Israel, but nothing came of it (via AFP):
The outcome of a joint summit of the Arab League and the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation in the Saudi capital highlighted regional divisions over how to respond to the war even as fears mount that it could draw in other countries.
The summit took place against a backdrop of widespread anger in the Middle East and beyond over Israel's aerial and ground offensive in Gaza, which has killed more than 11,000 people, mostly civilians and many of them children, according to the Hamas-run health ministry.
Israel says it has set out to destroy Hamas following the militant group's bloody October 7 attacks that Israeli officials say killed about 1,200 people, also mostly civilians, and saw about 240 taken hostage.
The final declaration on Saturday rejected Israeli claims that it is acting in "self-defence" and demanded that the United Nations Security Council adopt "a decisive and binding resolution" to halt Israel's "aggression".
It also called for an end to weapons sales to Israel and dismissed any future political resolution to the conflict that would keep Gaza separate from the Israeli-occupied West Bank.
Saudi Arabia's de facto ruler Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, who before the war was considering establishing formal diplomatic ties with Israel, told the summit he "holds the occupation (Israeli) authorities responsible for the crimes committed against the Palestinian people".
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Some countries, including Algeria and Lebanon, proposed responding to the devastation in Gaza by threatening to disrupt oil supplies to Israel and its allies as well as severing the economic and diplomatic ties that some Arab League nations have with Israel, the diplomats said.
However, at least three countries -- including the United Arab Emirates and Bahrain, which normalised ties with Israel in 2020 -- rejected the proposal, according to the diplomats who spoke on condition of anonymity.
In a televised address Saturday evening, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said Arab leaders "have to stand up against Hamas", which he described as "an integral part of the terror axis led by Iran".
Some noted that this summit was a squaring-off between Saudi Arabia’s sphere of influence versus Iran’s. While others pointed to Trump’s fingerprints, namely that countries that signed off on the Abraham Accords rebuffed punitive measures against Israel.
Breaking News! The Arab summit did look nice on video, but here is the DRAMA that actually happened behind the scenes folks, and you may want to sit down for this.
Most participants pushed for a joint statement including 4 points:
(1) prevention from providing military…— Tom Nash (@iamtomnash) November 11, 2023
Peaceful Arab block is comprised of:
Saudi Arabia - big dog
Egypt, Jordan - long standing agreements w/ Israel
UAE, Bahrain, Morocco, Sudan - Abraham Accords— Cathy Kichler 💎 (@CathyKichler) November 11, 2023
Now that fighting has resumed between Israel and Hamas, it’s time for the IDF to finish the job against the terror group. And reportedly, it's a campaign that Israel's Arab neighbors hope ends well for the Jewish state. Whether that carries into Lebanon is another story. Israel has not been shy in saying that Hezbollah and southern Lebanon are next on their target list if the UN or the Lebanese Army can't regain control there.
When the Arab countries join Israel in destroying Hamas, and other Islamic terrorist organizations, it will have meaning. Otherwise, it’s just baloney.
As long as numbskulls are calling Israel names like Hitler and Nazis …. wait a minute!! Those titles have already been assigned to George W Bush and Trump.
Maybe the name they should use is Stalin.
I think it matters now.
Gulf states can’t do anything from where they are. Kill people, maybe.
What they can do is make the U.S. “restraint and negotiation” strategy even more ridiculous. Our pathetic state department has a firm commitment to Middle East/Islamic solidarity. They just can’t accept any actions that would imply division in the region other than between Israel and ALL Islamic states.
When Trump moved the embassy to Jerusalem these folks, whose entire careers depended on ideas that they have long since oommited to in position papers, nearly had a fit. The move would outrage the Middle East. It didn’t.
This war is supposed to outrage the Middle East. It doesn’t.
To the extent that the Gulf States and Egypt like Israel at all, it is because the want to take advantage of Israel’s strength, not Israel’s “restraint” or its nimbleness and patience at the negotiating table.
Saudi Arabia’s biggest trading partner in the Middle East is Israel. Little known “secret” that’s rarely mentioned but mostly ignored by all there.
If the Palis weren’t killing Israelis the rest of the Arab world would consider them nuisances, like they do for the Yemenis.
Excerpt:
-PJ
The "Arab Street" is a bogeyman that the left created since the Iran hostage crisis to paralyze the United States into inaction in the Middle East. Our leaders keep convincing themselves to do nothing decisive because it will "inflame the Arab Street," or now that it will "coalesce the region into a real Military alliance against Israel." Is this really true, or is this just another bogeyman to talk us out of acting decisively? In 1979, we were told that whatever we did would become "recruitment posters" for the Islamic Jihadists, and so we did nothing.I think the true "Arab Street" is tired of the constant fighting, and they're equally tired of being told that they only say that privately but that publicly they have to support their Arab neighbors. The Trump "Abraham Accords" was a very public peace plan between Israel, the UAE, and Bahrain that belies the notion that Israel's neighbors don't want peace.
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I think that places like Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Jordan, the UAE, Bahrain, Kuwait, and other wealthy neighboring states want to see the radical Islamists stopped and would be happy to see Israel do it once and for all. THIS is something they may have to say privately so that the religious fanatical Jihadists don't turn on them, but I don't think the bogeyman of the "Arab Street" coalescing against Israel is a real threat.
To call them pawns is a compliment they are the trailer park trash of the Arab world & the Arabs KNOW IT!!!
the HAMAS, PLO and Hezbollah are only dogs in the fight. The leash holder for these terrorist organizations is the United Nations as a proxy for IRAN. The UN is evil and corrupted to the core. It was unwise to become in such a manner entangled with cultures that harbor nothing but contempt for western values. The mullahcracy of Iran is an evil entity that must be destroyed in order to root out the metastatic tumor of jewhating islamism festering the heart of mankind.
No. It is the Obama-Biden administration that is the greatest international threat to Israel. The UK. The US. And Western civilization.
Good points.
Israel should tell the Saudis to keep their filthy muzzie yaps shut or they’ll let them face Iran on their own.
Then publicly demand these Arab states each take 500,000 Gazans in.
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Exactly right. And that's why we should never bring them to this country. But FJB and his gang actually WANT that sort of trouble.
They are saying destroy these crazy effers
I advise everyone listen to this articulate Arab leader
Wise words
https://youtu.be/-dV4m43xZmY?si=vLiFgZrLi8S9H5hQ
Freepers don’t realize we have all funded Hamas
Including even Israel
Anyone here know how much we still give the afghan taliban?
Read the article
RE: Exactly right. And that’s why we should never bring them to this country. But FJB and his gang actually WANT that sort of trouble
So does Republican President wannabe, Nikki Haley.
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