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What conservatives get wrong about anti-Israel campus protests
MSNBC ^ | 11/25/2023 | Jacques Berlinerblau

Posted on 11/24/2023 11:51:59 AM PST by Fzob

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To: Fzob

Yeah, there’s a point buried in there that campus radicalism is not traditional U.S. liberalism. But the Great Deceit is that the Democratic party is 1,000% in the grips of the campus radicals. Back when I was in college, I’d point out that I never met a white supremacist who’d vote for the party of Lincoln [There’s a few neo-confederates disgracing FreeRepublic]... but I’d never met a radical leftist who did NOT vote for the party of LBJ. BOTH groups voted for the SAME party.


21 posted on 11/24/2023 1:24:53 PM PST by dangus
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To: Fzob

No matter where the protests are, it is obviously antifa under a different flag. They hate America and never pass up an opportunity to demonstrate that.


22 posted on 11/24/2023 1:26:52 PM PST by pfflier
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To: AppyPappy
Thought
23 posted on 11/24/2023 2:33:53 PM PST by MikelTackNailer (no man is an island - unless he's Chris Christie in a swimming pool.)
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To: Fzob

The left and the muj are simply using one another for now. When they turn on one another, and turn they will, it will be glorious. 95% of the leftists are queers, women, urbanites and beta males. I wouldn’t put my money on them.


24 posted on 11/24/2023 2:53:32 PM PST by Levy78 (Reject modernity, embrace tradition. )
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To: Fzob

The EXACT same movement feels both US & Israel are on stolen land,occupied by whites with no right to exist.

They work towards that goal.


25 posted on 11/24/2023 3:04:33 PM PST by NoLibZone (We have the nation we deserve The bad guys are willing to protest and riot while we email.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; BraveMan; cardinal4; ...
What a maggot.

26 posted on 11/24/2023 3:24:46 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: Fzob

The colleges are not straw men. They have become the enemy in to many cases. Federal funding should be withdrawn from colleges that teach antisemitism and communist revolution. The US is not required by law to fund its own destruction.


27 posted on 11/24/2023 3:26:27 PM PST by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: fuzzylogic
lol - a classic piece written by a liberal thinking they understand conservatives....yet have no clue. It’s rife with stereotypical bias.

BINGO!

28 posted on 11/24/2023 3:31:23 PM PST by GOPJ (Ignorant but arrogant is a sad way to start an adult life. Victor Davis Hanson on Ivy college grads)
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To: Levy78

The left works mainly through guile and false fronts. They assume that everyone else does. They are incapable of seeing that Muslims mean it when they say they intend to murder all Jews, Christian and everyone else who opposes them. Like the stupid intellectuals of the West prior to WW2. Hitler said what he intended to do and wrote it down. He never wavered. The western intellectuals assumed that Hitler was just putting on an act, like they do. They are incapable of direct speech and action and cannot credit it in others. The same thing is happening now with the liberals and the radical Muslims. The liberals just can’t believe that the Muslim radicals mean what they say. Being treacherous fakes they assume that Muslims are winking as they issue their threats. They are not. Liberals are incapable of seeing this. They will be very surprised when the head choppers go after them


29 posted on 11/24/2023 3:42:47 PM PST by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: Tell It Right
Us conservatives with computer science and engineering degrees

And if relevant content in required English classes hadn't been displaced by woke tomfoolery, you would have written "We conservatives".

30 posted on 11/24/2023 3:47:51 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: Seruzawa

Yep. Good assessment.


31 posted on 11/24/2023 3:52:49 PM PST by Levy78 (Reject modernity, embrace tradition. )
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To: Tell It Right

And extends to the hiring practices of some departments, like mathematics, you would think would be immune.


32 posted on 11/24/2023 6:14:54 PM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Re-imagine the media!)
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To: fuzzylogic
Given their [conservatives] increasing dalliance with white supremacist voting blocs

What is a white supremacist voting block? What are the defining characteristics of such a voting block and what are the number of voters in those blocks? And what is meant by "dalliance with" them?

If this cretin had to answer those questions, he would probably explain that Trump voters are a white supremacist voting block. And since most conservatives have voted for Trump, their "dalliance with" the voting block actually means being a member of the block. Beyond voting for Trump this nutjob presumably means if a conservative politician courts Trump voters.

What then would be this cretin's explanation for how he knows that Trump voters are white supremacists? His answer to that would undoubtedly resemble the Russia collusion hoax story that mentally ill lefties continually told each other, and actually still do. It's one of those things that "everybody knows" and requires no real explanation when mentally ill lefties talk to each other.

33 posted on 11/24/2023 6:45:04 PM PST by lasereye
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To: Fzob
Islamophobia, of course, is not an overriding concern for conservatives

That's because on campus it the Muslims and their supporters that are threatening and committing violence against Jewish students. Here is the beginning of a complaint about the violence against Jewish students at MIT.

This is the reality that MIT President wants to hide. A letter from Israeli & Jewish MIT students:

To all students at MIT,

Today, Jewish and Israeli MIT students were physically prevented from attending class by a hostile group of pro-Hamas and anti-Israel MIT students that call themselves the CAA.

This is after students from the CAA harassed MIT staff members in their offices for being Jewish and interrupted classes in the past few weeks. All of this has occurred with no clear response from the administration. With each passing day, MIT admin’s silence makes Jewish and Israeli students feel unsafe at MIT.

Many Jewish students fear leaving their dorm rooms and have stated that they feel MIT is not safe for Jews. This message is compounded by the public and private warnings of Hillel and many faculty that Jewish students should not enter MIT’s main lobby today, November 9th, 2023.

34 posted on 11/24/2023 7:00:29 PM PST by magooey (The Mandate of Heaven resides in the hearts of men.)
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The Jews in the West have made outsized intellectual contributions over the years. They have earned 129 Nobel Prizes, many in the sciences. There are plenty of others whose work is competitive and keep the Nobel prize winners on their toes. The issue is the education of a substantial portion of the Western intellectual elite.

This is not possible in the West under current conditions where our governments have decided to commit political self destruction. This latter is based on ignorance of the history of the Middle East. Other countries have learned about the imperialism from the Middle East at much cost in blood and treasure.

There are high quality international level Universities outside the West where students can do their studies or work on their doctorates. The world is changing, and this is no longer the 1930's where it is the West and nothing else. There are the IIT's (Indian Institutes of Technology) in India, the University of Sao Paulo in Brazil, and numerous institutions elsewhere. If Obama's and Biden's minions cannot behave themselves, it might be reasonable to look around for top flight education.

35 posted on 11/24/2023 7:05:40 PM PST by magooey (The Mandate of Heaven resides in the hearts of men.)
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To: Fzob

I only read the excerpt but my hot take is that he makes the same mistake that guys like Dennis Prager make, which is that he sees too much of a distinction between leftists and modern so-called liberals.

He’s right that the left’s true enemy is the classical liberalism that came out of the Enlightenment. Where he’s wrong is in thinking that that kind of liberalism is embodied by today’s so-called “liberals” when in fact it’s embodied primarily by American political conservatives as a matter of consistently applied principle.

So called “liberal” academics are just leftists who are too weak minded to take their leftist premises to their logical conclusions. Thus they have areas where they’re hesitant to take the full leftist plunge, and in these areas they resemble conservatives aka classical liberals. For instance “liberal” academics have lagged behind their leftist vanguard in repudiating free speech even though a consistent application of leftist principle requires its repudiation.

In decades past, committed leftists would have seen these “liberals” as useful idiots to be allied with in a united front kind of way to take over the campuses. But now that the left has won that war, “liberals” have become truly useless and are starting to be seen as de facto accidental conservatives to be marginalized or destroyed in the left’s mopping up operations.


36 posted on 11/24/2023 7:49:05 PM PST by Yardstick
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To: Taxman

ping


37 posted on 11/24/2023 8:01:30 PM PST by Taxman ((SAVE AMERICA! VOTE REPUBLICAN IN 2024! SAVE AMERICA!))
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To: Fzob

MSNBC is wrong on everything.


38 posted on 11/25/2023 3:00:37 AM PST by popdonnelly (All the enormous crimes in history have been committed by governments.)
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To: Spok
 
 
Situational ethics would be the technical term and is tolerated, alarmingly even encouraged in modern academia and culture. Those turds are going to grow up one day and be in charge of stuff, namely the fall of the West.
 
 

39 posted on 11/25/2023 12:57:54 PM PST by lapsus calami (What's that stink? Code Pink ! ! And their buddy Murtha, too!)
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To: Fzob

Delusional twaddle. The kids have been indoctrinated with CRT and DEI by teachers, who were indoctrinated in cultural marxism. Their antisemitic violence is a natural result of this. And Liberals in Academic were completely complicit.


40 posted on 11/25/2023 5:31:39 PM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers." )
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