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To: FreedomPoster

Anyway, the first Thanksgiving feast was in St. Augustine Florida, by Catholic Spaniards, more than 50 years before Plymouth. But that would endanger the myth of Protestant anglo America, so it must be scrubbed and sanitized to ensure Northeastern hegemony.


10 posted on 11/22/2023 4:14:39 PM PST by Romulus
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To: Romulus

I would wager many Thanksgiving obervations preceded the one you mention, as well as the “first” one on our soil. It has been part and parcel of human history for ages to pause and give thanks. It’s not as if we need a competition in that field, or do we?


14 posted on 11/22/2023 4:18:34 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew (May I please have a government shutdown?)
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To: Romulus
Mexicans aren't American. The Pilgrims were American.

16 posted on 11/22/2023 4:24:38 PM PST by Governor Dinwiddie (LORD, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
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To: Romulus

“...the first Thanksgiving feast was in St. Augustine Florida, by Catholic Spaniards, more than 50 years before Plymouth.”

Could you tell us more about that?


19 posted on 11/22/2023 5:33:51 PM PST by jocon307
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To: Romulus

Ponce de León

https://www.britannica.com/biography/Juan-Ponce-de-Leon

Born into a noble family, Ponce de León was a page in the royal court of Aragon and later fought in a campaign against the Moors in Granada. It is possible that he began his career of exploration in 1493 as part of Christopher Columbus’s second expedition to the New World.


21 posted on 11/22/2023 5:49:23 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Texas is not about where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind and Attitude.)
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To: Romulus

There is always the Scandanavian legend of Leif Erikson.


https://www.britannica.com/biography/Leif-Erikson

Leif Erikson, (flourished 11th century), Norse explorer widely held to have been the first European to reach the shores of North America. The 13th- and 14th-century Icelandic accounts of his life show that he was a member of an early voyage to eastern North America, although he may not have been the first to sight its coast.

The second of the three sons of Erik the Red, the first colonizer of Greenland, Leif sailed from Greenland to Norway shortly before 1000 to serve among the retainers at the court of Olaf I Tryggvason, who converted him to Christianity and commissioned him to urge that religion upon the Greenland settlers. According to Eiríks saga rauða (“Erik the Red’s Saga”), while returning to Greenland in about 1000, Leif was blown off course and landed on the North American continent, where he observed forests with excellent building timber and grapes, which led him to call the new region Vinland (“Land of Wine”). On his return to Greenland, he proselytized for Christianity and converted his mother, who built the first church in Greenland, at Brattahild, Erik the Red’s estate.
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According to the Grænlendinga saga (“Saga of the Greenlanders”) in the Flateyjarbók (“Book of the Flat Islands”), considered by many scholars to be more reliable in some aspects than Eiríks saga rauða, Leif learned of the new land to the west from the Icelander Bjarni Herjólfsson, who had been storm-driven there en route to Greenland about 15 years earlier. The saga pictures Leif equipping an expedition to the new land shortly after 1000. He named the new areas according to their qualities: Helluland (“Land of Flat Rocks”), the Frobisher Bay area in the north (or possibly Cape Chidley on the northern tip of Labrador); Markland (“Land of Forests”), most likely the central coast of Labrador; and, farthest south, Vinland, possibly the area surrounding the Gulf of Saint Lawrence. Further expeditions to Vinland were later made by Leif’s siblings, Thorstein (whom weather forced to turn back before he reached Vinland), Thorvald, and Freydis, as well as by the Icelander Thorfinn Karlsefni.


24 posted on 11/22/2023 5:56:28 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Texas is not about where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind and Attitude.)
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To: Romulus

Texans also claim that their state is the home of the first Thanksgiving. In 1598, Juan de Oñate led an expedition of Spaniards northward from Mexico through the Chihuahua Desert. They were running low on water and food when they stumbled into the Rio Grande valley, where they found water as well as plenty of ducks, geese and fish, but no turkeys. Nonetheless, they celebrated a Thanksgiving service.

In the 21st century, Juan de Oñate fell out of favor with the Wokesters, so his statue, which stood in Alcalde, NM was removed.


26 posted on 11/22/2023 6:07:14 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: Romulus

The Spaniards weren’t tainted with socialism in 1565, either-maybe that is why St. Augustine thrived and is the oldest continuously occupied city in the USA. If the Plymouth bunch had been less into that stuff, Plymouth might have become a city 400 years ago...


28 posted on 11/22/2023 6:15:49 PM PST by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: Romulus

There was another “first Thanksgiving” in Florida in 1564, celebrated by French Huguenot settlers about a year before the one held by the Spaniards in St. Augustine. However, the Spaniards quickly overran this Protestant enclave and expelled its inhabitants.


29 posted on 11/22/2023 6:22:49 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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