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The Great Thanksgiving Hoax
Mises Institute ^ | Nov. 20, 1999 | Richard J. Mayberry

Posted on 11/22/2023 3:22:26 PM PST by FreedomPoster

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Almost certainly a repost. And deservedly so.
1 posted on 11/22/2023 3:22:26 PM PST by FreedomPoster
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nor were the colonists hard-working or tenacious. ... many of the colonists were lazy thieves.

I doubt it.

2 posted on 11/22/2023 3:27:20 PM PST by Angelino97
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To: FreedomPoster

I remember Rush telling a similar story.


3 posted on 11/22/2023 3:28:38 PM PST by DLfromthedesert (✡️✝️🔯)
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article: "nor were the colonists hard-working or tenacious. 1621 was a famine year and many of the colonists were lazy thieves."

Ah ha! That explains present day Massachusetts.

4 posted on 11/22/2023 3:28:47 PM PST by Governor Dinwiddie (LORD, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
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To: Angelino97

Listen to Dave Barton break down the written history of this. Jamestown was socialists/communists folks who failed. Plymouth Rock was truly committed to God and the true selfless faith that causes people to prosper together in back breaking work, putting others before themselves.


5 posted on 11/22/2023 3:35:38 PM PST by momincombatboots (BQEphesians 6... who you are really at war with. )
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To: Angelino97

Bradford was lying? What reason would he have to lie?


6 posted on 11/22/2023 3:37:34 PM PST by Fungi
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To: FreedomPoster

Pfffft, Next they’ll say Santa Claus isn’t real.

Some people just want to watch the world burn.


7 posted on 11/22/2023 3:39:44 PM PST by occamrzr06
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To: FreedomPoster

Biblical fundamentalism almost did them in.


8 posted on 11/22/2023 4:04:06 PM PST by Romulus
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Human nature does not change.


9 posted on 11/22/2023 4:12:32 PM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.)
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Anyway, the first Thanksgiving feast was in St. Augustine Florida, by Catholic Spaniards, more than 50 years before Plymouth. But that would endanger the myth of Protestant anglo America, so it must be scrubbed and sanitized to ensure Northeastern hegemony.


10 posted on 11/22/2023 4:14:39 PM PST by Romulus
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November 1621. First Thanksgiving. Three days. Pilgrims and Native Americans together. No hoax about that.


11 posted on 11/22/2023 4:14:47 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew (May I please have a government shutdown?)
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To: Romulus
Biblical fundamentalism almost did them in.

No.

2 Thessalonians 3:6-12 Now we command you, brothers, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you keep away from any brother who is walking in idleness and not in accord with the tradition that you received from us.

For you yourselves know how you ought to imitate us, because we were not idle when we were with you, nor did we eat anyone's bread without paying for it, but with toil and labor we worked night and day, that we might not be a burden to any of you. It was not because we do not have that right, but to give you in ourselves an example to imitate.

For even when we were with you, we would give you this command: If anyone is not willing to work, let him not eat. For we hear that some among you walk in idleness, not busy at work, but busybodies. Now such persons we command and encourage in the Lord Jesus Christ to do their work quietly and to earn their own living.

12 posted on 11/22/2023 4:16:54 PM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.)
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To: DLfromthedesert

Every year.


13 posted on 11/22/2023 4:18:34 PM PST by Fledermaus (It's time to get rid of the Three McStooges; Mitch, Kevin and Ronna! 1 gone, 1 almost dead. )
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To: Romulus

I would wager many Thanksgiving obervations preceded the one you mention, as well as the “first” one on our soil. It has been part and parcel of human history for ages to pause and give thanks. It’s not as if we need a competition in that field, or do we?


14 posted on 11/22/2023 4:18:34 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew (May I please have a government shutdown?)
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“Oh, those were the days”


15 posted on 11/22/2023 4:22:01 PM PST by right way right (May we remain sober over mere men, for God really is our only true hope. )
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To: Romulus
Mexicans aren't American. The Pilgrims were American.

16 posted on 11/22/2023 4:24:38 PM PST by Governor Dinwiddie (LORD, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
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Those Were The Days
17 posted on 11/22/2023 4:32:01 PM PST by null and void (If you support monsters you will die in the cross fire.)
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To: Fledermaus

Yes I miss him.


18 posted on 11/22/2023 5:31:36 PM PST by DLfromthedesert (✡️✝️🔯)
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To: Romulus

“...the first Thanksgiving feast was in St. Augustine Florida, by Catholic Spaniards, more than 50 years before Plymouth.”

Could you tell us more about that?


19 posted on 11/22/2023 5:33:51 PM PST by jocon307
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

If you want to be literal-the people who were around to celebrate a thankgiving in St. Augustine Florida weren’t Mexicans-they were Spaniards-most were from Spain-not from the part of Spanish territory called Mexico. Pilgrims weren’t American, either unless they were born in America-the only Americans here when the Europeans and the Brits-including pilgrims-arrived were the Native American/Indians-so they were the only Americans at any of the Thanksgiving dinners anywhere on this continent before at least 1776. The American continent was divided into colonies/territories-no countries.

My ancestors were from Spain-they came to Mexico from Spain in the late 1500’s or so-technically speaking, they were not Mexicans because they were not born there-and it was just part of New Spain-not a country yet-they came to Texas and NM around 1780, but none of that was part of the Brit colonies-even Louisiana had not been given back to France by Spain in 1800, and there were only the former colonies to call a country/USA in 1800...


20 posted on 11/22/2023 5:39:39 PM PST by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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