Posted on 11/22/2023 7:34:07 AM PST by artichokegrower
The California Utilities Commission just granted Pacific Gas and Electric a 13% rate hike – ostensibly to pay for under grounding power lines.
Because Gov. Gavin Newsom appoints the commissioners to the CPUC, this is “Gavinomics.” Expect the other utilities to hike the rates as well.
(Excerpt) Read more at californiaglobe.com ...
Gonna get expensive when I have to charge my state mandated electric vehicle
Oopsie. They didn't think about the consequences.
“Oopsie. They didn’t think about the consequences.”
Please tell us you’re joking and that you believe that the proper response is:
“Oopsie. They’re upset that prices aren’t going up 30%”
Otherwise, how can we win?
Envirowhackos want to shut down the Diablo Canyon nuclear plant. Electricity in California will get real expensive then.
“Gonna get expensive when I have to charge my state mandated electric vehicle”
But still less than gas!
Obama forced many power companies to close their coal plants and replace them with "clean burning natural gas" fueled coal plants. Then Biden came in and makes natural gas harder to come by and more expensive. Thus, Alabama Power added 3.4¢/kWh fuel charge to the standard rate (plus a 4% state tax). It's basically power consumers having to pay for the "sin" of the power company doing what the Dims forced them to do.
Bull crap like that is why I installed solar to make us a bit more energy independent.
You can just take public transportation with your new countrymen.
We’ve seen ours get raised 4 times from $131/mth in April 2022 to to $283/mth in Aug 2023. And we are on the “averaging/equal payment” plan. Looking at our history, we’ve never had an actual usage bill over $200. They must be planning for the future right? NVenergy. Not many options to choose from. Can’t afford solar so......
“13% rate hike – ostensibly to pay for under grounding power lines.”
Read about underground power lines on Wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Undergrounding
I know little about California’s situation but large-scale undergrounding sounds like a needlessly expensive idea.
Are they saying that the undergounding is the reason for a 13% rate hike?!!!
So, it’s really TRUE what they say?
“Last one out of California - Please turn off the lights!” ;)
CA - 29.99 cents per kWh
KS - 13.46
MA - 28.00
MI - 19.35
TN - 11.85
https://www.eia.gov/electricity/monthly/epm_table_grapher.php?t=epmt_5_6_a
“Last one out of California - Please turn off the lights!”
The lights will be off before the last one leaves...
Hahahahahahaha…
End result is 80% of our power in the past year is free from solar, including charging an EV which we drive about 1,300 miles per month on power charged at our now all-electric home. (We drive the EV more than that, but I'm talking about how much is charged at home on average each month. Obviously when we take the EV on trips our solar charges only the first leg of the trip -- we buy the remaining charges away from home.) I now pay a HELOC payment plus tiny power bill in place of what used to be a large power bill plus large natural gas bill plus a lot of spending for gasoline at the pump.
That's not a solar vs fossil fuels argument. That's an argument for being more self-sufficient even if the only resources available to you are ones that are less efficient (i.e. solar is not as good as coal or natural gas except for the fact that I can't produce coal or natural gas on my own like I can utilize solar on my own).
There are times when solar makes sense financially, mostly because of artificially inflated energy prices and government subsidization. San Diego has the most expensive electricity in the country, and nearly the highest insolation. When I purchased solar 10 years ago, my average monthly bill was over $500. By now, it would be $750/mo. Instead, they pay me a small amount every year, which I apply to my gas bill. Even at $500/mo, I would have paid $60,000 for electricity over the past 10 years, vs $17,000 (after tax credits/subsidies) I paid for the solar array. I couldn’t afford NOT to go solar...
End result: in the past 365 days 80.9% of my power is free from solar, buying only 19.1% of my power from the grid. My past 12 power bills total $827 -- monthly that's $69/month. No natural gas bill. Almost no gasoline at the pump (what little we drive our ICE pickup now that we have an EV and do most of our driving in it). When I do the numbers a year from now after having sold power to the grid all year, I expect the total for the year to be about $600 ($50/month).
But always in the back of my mind is the possibility that state regulations will change and make it costly to put power onto the grid. So I'll always be financially ready to change the settings in my inverters to turn off the grid sell feature. In other words, when I did the math before going solar and tried to figure out if it was worth it, the grid sell feature was always optional in my mind and never a deciding factor. That's my advice to anyone thinking about going solar or any other long term decision: make sure you're the one in control and can walk away from it if it no longer benefits you. Especially when dealing with something that the Dims over-regulate like they do energy.
I hear ya. Bad choices on our part leads us to where we are so................ Have a great Thanksgiving.
Studies show that EV’s cost more to run that ice vehicles.
Power isn’t cheap.
Charging units at your home are not cheap, either.
Just paid 17.663 cents/KWH here in N Nevada-—rural.
Bill was $86.00
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