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20,000 Military Age Ukrainian Men Fled Abroad to Avoid Conscription, Another 20,000 Caught at Border
Breitbart ^ | 18 Nov 2023 | OLIVER JJ LANE

Posted on 11/18/2023 8:48:11 AM PST by Kazan

Huge numbers of young Ukrainian men fled the country to avoid being drafted in the army to fight Russia, a report states, with many swimming border rivers or walking cross-country to avoid detection.

Under Ukraine’s martial law, for the vast majority of Ukrainian males, it has been illegal to leave the country since the Russian invasion, a step taken by Kyiv to maintain its access to conscripts for the fight against Moscow’s occupation. Yet figures reveal tens of thousands have attempted to flee and avoid fighting.

Data from the border services of Hungary, Moldova, Poland, Romania, and Slovakia acquired for an investigation by British state broadcaster the BBC claims 19,740 men aged between 18 and 60 are known to have “illegally crossed” into their territories from Ukraine since the start of Russia’s invasion last year. In addition to those that made it to a European neighbour, the Ukrainian government has claimed 21,113 people trying to flee Ukraine illegally have been caught during the war.

In all, the figures from Ukraine and its Western neighbours amount to some 40,853 Ukrainians who are known to have at least attempted to escape conscription and the war, a number of men equivalent to an entire medium-sized European army such as that of Romania or Hungary.

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To: SaxxonWoods
Russia shuts down areas of Ukraine for hours by doing flyovers of dangerous bombers (Air superiority)

Where did you dig up that bit of fiction?

21 posted on 11/18/2023 10:23:19 AM PST by freeandfreezing
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To: PGR88
another 2-3 million have fled east

Are you counting the kidnapped children? They didn't "flee", they were forcibly taken to Russia.

22 posted on 11/18/2023 10:24:46 AM PST by freeandfreezing
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To: Kazan
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23 posted on 11/18/2023 10:34:08 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (🦅MAGADONIAN⚔️)
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To: Kazan

We’d have 20,000,000 trying to avoid conscription.


24 posted on 11/18/2023 10:45:32 AM PST by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

I’m going to use that meme on X.


25 posted on 11/18/2023 10:58:32 AM PST by Kazan
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To: freeandfreezing

“Where did you dig up that bit of fiction?”

https://www.bing.com/news/search?q=Russian+Bombers+Causing+Alerts+In+Ukraine&qpvt=russian+bombers+causing+alerts+in+Ukraine&FORM=EWRE


26 posted on 11/18/2023 11:02:24 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (Successful People Have a Sense of Gratitude. Unsuccessful People Have a Sense of Entitlement)
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To: freeandfreezing

LOL... your “source” is the US State Department.

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27 posted on 11/18/2023 11:02:43 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: PGR88

I think you are right, we just can’t put numbers to it.


28 posted on 11/18/2023 11:13:47 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (Successful People Have a Sense of Gratitude. Unsuccessful People Have a Sense of Entitlement)
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To: Kazan

I set it free! Enjoy!


29 posted on 11/18/2023 11:29:01 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (🦅MAGADONIAN⚔️)
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To: DesertRhino
LOL! Your source is a Russian propaganda outlet.

Do you really think no Russians left Russia because of the war?

30 posted on 11/18/2023 11:32:50 AM PST by freeandfreezing
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To: SaxxonWoods
Ukrainian air alerts are posted when Russian fighters and bombers capable of launching cruise missiles take off from their bases in Russia. Those planes don't enter Ukrainian airspace because if they did they would be shot down. No Russian manned aircraft does "flyovers" in Ukrainian territory.

Your claim that Russia has air superiority is just fiction.

You said:

Russia shuts down areas of Ukraine for hours by doing flyovers of dangerous bombers (Air superiority)

And your link doesn't say that. It does however point out that "Russia's bomber fleet hasn't fired cruise missiles at Ukraine for a month, a sign its stocks are dwindling, UK intel says"

How does your claim of "air superiority" make sense if Russia's bomber fleet lacks ammunition to attack with?

31 posted on 11/18/2023 11:40:42 AM PST by freeandfreezing
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To: Kazan

I don’t know why these pro-Palestinian college student bass turds don’t man up, recharge their cellphones and get off their asses and go fight in the Unkraine. Pedo Joes Ukies need a hand!


32 posted on 11/18/2023 1:18:40 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer ('Build Back Better' is a Bidenskyyyyyyism for 'we gotta get rid of all dem white peoples'.)
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To: freeandfreezing

That was the first article that came up when I searched today. Since you are so interested you could search yourself. The article I saw yesterday identified the bomber and the nasty bomb it carries. Ukraine has no defense against it so that’s why everything shuts down when it flies. That’s called air superiority, you can fly over your enemy’s country and the enemy can’t stop you. This is nothing to get angry about, it’s just the situation. Russia recently made the bomber capable of refueling which means it can keep them flying 24/7 if it wants. That’s what Z was freaking out about.


33 posted on 11/18/2023 1:32:11 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (Successful People Have a Sense of Gratitude. Unsuccessful People Have a Sense of Entitlement)
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To: Kazan

Send them to Canada with the other cowards where they belong


34 posted on 11/18/2023 1:59:01 PM PST by NWFree (Sigma male 🤪)
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To: Kazan

They do not want to make Zelensky rich off their being killed or wounded.


35 posted on 11/18/2023 11:44:56 PM PST by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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To: SaxxonWoods
You need to learn more. No Russian bombers can fly over Ukrainian controlled terrain without risk of immediate destruction from anti-aircraft missiles.

The Russian planes mentioned in the articles are used to launch long distance cruise missiles, so the risk of cruise missile attacks increases dramatically whenever they take off and fly around in Russia.

Ukraine does have defenses against incoming cruise missiles, and most of them get shot down. But some don't so the government posts air raid warnings whenever there might be an incoming cruise missile from Russian territory.

Nothing about that situation is what "air superiority" means. In fact, the same air raid warnings are posted when a Russian ship launches a cruise missile.

36 posted on 11/19/2023 12:20:04 PM PST by freeandfreezing
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To: freeandfreezing

I guess Zelensky was lying then.


37 posted on 11/19/2023 1:14:00 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (Successful People Have a Sense of Gratitude. Unsuccessful People Have a Sense of Entitlement)
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To: Kazan
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38 posted on 11/19/2023 5:43:05 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (🦅MAGADONIAN⚔️)
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