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State to adopt clean car rule (New Mexico will require that 43% of vehicles sold by 2026 be electric)
The Santa Fe New Mexican ^ | Nov 17, 2023 | Scott Wyland

Posted on 11/17/2023 12:09:19 PM PST by CedarDave

The state Environmental Improvement Board split 3-2 and the Albuquerque Bernalillo County Air Quality Control Board voted unanimously Thursday night to adopt the rule.

Dubbed the Advanced Clean Cars and Trucks rule, it aligns with California's standards and is part of the larger effort to cut planet-warming greenhouse gases as well as ground-level ozone and particulates that can cause respiratory problems.

The rule calls for 43% of new cars and light-duty trucks delivered to New Mexico to be electric models by 2026 and 82% by 2032. At the same time, 15% to 20% of new, heavier-duty commercial trucks delivered to the state must be electric by 2026, and 40% to 70% must be zero-emissions by 2034, depending on their class.

Advocates contend supplying more zero-emission vehicles is vital to combat climate change and protect public health, while car dealers fiercely oppose a government mandate they say will force them to carry far more of the vehicles than they can sell.

Still, auto dealers made dire predictions of how the rule will hurt their businesses and further reduce rural residents' already slim choices for cars. If customers can't get the internal-combustion cars they want, they won't settle for electric vehicles but instead will go buy gasoline cars in other states, the dealers said.

Clifton Horace, a Farmington car dealer, estimated that if he is forced to make electric vehicles 43% of his inventory, his gas-powered cars will run out within seven months after the rule goes into effect.

He called that "a death spiral."

"When you hear and feel pushback from dealers, it's not about EVs — there's nothing political about it," Horace said. "It's just simply we are fearful it will put us in a position that we've reduced the choices that our customers have to literally zero."

(Excerpt) Read more at santafenewmexican.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; US: New Mexico
KEYWORDS: electriccars; evs; newmexico
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To: CedarDave

The Heat will eat those batteries alive


21 posted on 11/17/2023 12:36:33 PM PST by butlerweave
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To: IYAS9YAS
No dealer in the state should sell any gasoline or diesel vehicles to any government agency in the state. Not one. Force them to buy EVs and make the Governor deal with the flak.

That's fine with MLG. She has already dictated that the fleet must go all electric:

New Mexico Governor: State Agencies Must Switch to All-Electric Vehicle Fleet by the Year 2035

22 posted on 11/17/2023 12:40:27 PM PST by CedarDave (Pfizer's boosters: Side effects make it the medical equivalent of Russian roulette)
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To: CedarDave

Well everbody KNOWS that all you have to do is pass a law and it will solve all the problems!

You know, like the law that prohibits killing, or drunk driving or use of cocaine. Look how well they work!

Last weekend ALONE 11 people died from shootings in the second city.


23 posted on 11/17/2023 12:41:53 PM PST by VideoPaul
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To: Red Badger

Yeah, really... enviro-whackos envision/demand thousands of E-vehicles on the road by tomorrow and yet the charging stations can be counted on one hand.

[Rabbit trail: I’m still waiting for somebody to propose an ‘electric rail’ down the middle of every highway lane... a means of continuously delivering electricity to vehicles, a la the catenary lines for electric trains. There’s still not enough power generation on the planet to make that actually work, but it would at least limit the need for lithium.]


24 posted on 11/17/2023 12:42:26 PM PST by alancarp (George Orwell was an optimist.)
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To: Dawgreg
Maybe this will be a catalyst for those idiots that vote in these loons and will give them the common sense they lack and vote these vermin OUT!!!

Not much chance of that, unfortunately. Dems control every branch of government including both houses of the legislature, all statewide elected officials and the courts. Three years ago they gerrymandered the state to put conservative SE NM in the same US Congressional district as Santa Fe and the Indian tribes in NW NM with predictable results - we lost our only Pub rep in Congress. And voting now allows for same day registration, ballot harvesting and the usual Dem ways of stacking the decks against Pubs. With the educational system controlled by the radical unions, the education ranking for NM kids continues to be 50 out of 50.

25 posted on 11/17/2023 12:48:47 PM PST by CedarDave (Pfizer's boosters: Side effects make it the medical equivalent of Russian roulette)
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To: CedarDave

Navajo Nation will disagree. I could easily see them easing their car registration laws to accommodate New Mexicans and take on New Mexico’s auto laws. Could be a classic court fight.


26 posted on 11/17/2023 12:51:16 PM PST by VanShuyten ("...that all the donkeys were dead. I know nothing as to the fate of the less valuable animals)
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To: CedarDave

It’s not a problem, GM announced they cut back heavily on EV production because of the missive number of EV on dealers lots that no one wants. There are plenty available.

This will create needed demand that does not currently exist, then when people have no choice but to buy the government approved option GM will be saved.

This is “new capitalism” and why global corporations invest so highly in government political contributions.


27 posted on 11/17/2023 12:54:19 PM PST by usurper (AI was born with a birth defect.)
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To: CedarDave

At some point they will force people to buy EVs.


28 posted on 11/17/2023 12:57:51 PM PST by Signalman
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To: blackdog

“”Only Joe Biden’s policies could bring Buggy Whips back when all is said and done.....””

In order to explain the insanity of subsidies (taxpayer $$$) I often use the example of subsidizing the horseshoe industry. Some people get it. I also p—off people by pointing out every time we come across an EV while driving, and each time I state we all help purchase (subsidies) that car. EVs are usually the 2nd or 3rd car someone with $$$ purchases. They can ‘afford’ their expensive toy.

On a side note, there is a wonderful video that demonstrates the liberal EV mindset. This gentleman has a Tesla charger in his garage. He has his garage door open, doing weekend chores. A lady with her own Tesla drives up and plugs in, uses his charger. When he points out that this is not a public charger, that he pays for it, she does not care. She is saving the Earth, and is entitled.


29 posted on 11/17/2023 1:01:46 PM PST by Ronaldus Magnus III (Do, or do not, there is no try)
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To: usurper
It’s not a problem, GM announced they cut back heavily on EV production because of the massive number of EV on dealers lots that no one wants. There are plenty available.

This will create needed demand that does not currently exist, then when people have no choice but to buy the government approved option GM will be saved.

Camilla Feibelman, director of the Sierra Club's Rio Grande Chapter, says otherwise (from the article):
... demand now far surpasses supply, and this rule will correct the market. The state is building charging stations, so between those and home chargers, which can be bought for several hundred dollars, electric car owners will have no trouble, she said.

30 posted on 11/17/2023 1:06:19 PM PST by CedarDave (Pfizer's boosters: Side effects make it the medical equivalent of Russian roulette)
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To: Signalman
At some point they will force people to buy EVs.

That obviously is the point. Gasoline vehicles sold in Texas to NM residents will not be able to be registered in NM because the vehicles will not have California-type emissions controls that are being implemented in New Mexico as part of this rule.

31 posted on 11/17/2023 1:11:03 PM PST by CedarDave (Pfizer's boosters: Side effects make it the medical equivalent of Russian roulette)
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To: CedarDave
That's fine with MLG. She has already dictated that the fleet must go all electric:

Yeah. 2035. Well after she's out of office. No. The dealers should do this now. All agencies. State, county, city. Hell, even the Pueblos, where they can.

32 posted on 11/17/2023 1:12:16 PM PST by IYAS9YAS (There are two kinds of people: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.)
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To: CedarDave

Huge government overreach.

This is not what we pay you to do, a$$h0les.


33 posted on 11/17/2023 1:12:38 PM PST by Allegra (Stop the Zeepers from Censoring FReepers)
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To: alancarp

Once again, putting the cart before the horse. The limitations on electrical power generation and distribution is the problem that should be tackled FIRST.

Go nuclear, and not just in rhetoric. There are recent developments in the design and cost containment of nuclear plants, that allow them to to built in a manufacturing facility, trucked or shipped via rail to the site, and be set up and running in weeks, not years. The Small Modular Atomic Reactor program is specifically designed for remote localities, but may also piggyback on existing grid distribution centers. These designs have addressed most of the continuing objections to older Light Water Reactor designs, in that they are able to run flat out for 24/7/365 for up to eight years, with no possibility of “China Syndrome” meltdown, no changing out of “spent” uranium rods and the resulting long-term storage problems of the radioactive waste.

Then we shall talk about the electrification of the privately-owned vehicles on the roadways and in urban areas. With all this electricity being generated in a safe and economical manner, the price of electricity would fall so low, it would be economically feasible to generate hydrogen on demand by electrolysis from stagnant waters, put in fuel cells for these electrically powered vehicles, and distribute the hydrogen by means of a swap-out tank, much like propane tanks for home cooking grills.

But the growth of this technology would have to be market-driven, and not the dictated edict of loons in the state legislatures. People will be using hydrocarbon-based internal combustion engines until probably well into the 22nd Century. The technology is well known, proven to have high output per dollar invested, and the application is highly flexible.


34 posted on 11/17/2023 1:14:30 PM PST by alloysteel (Most people slog through life without ever knowing the wonders of true insanity.)
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To: CedarDave

Psychotic.


35 posted on 11/17/2023 1:15:50 PM PST by OKSooner (Be especially sure to take extra wool socks.)
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To: Ronaldus Magnus III

Last summer I stayed in a motel in southern Colorado. Outside of my room there was an extension cord plugged into the wall that led to a small charger that was recharging an EV parked next to my P/U. It was plugged in before I went to bed and when I left in the morning it indicated there was only a 2/3 charge of the EV batteries. They weren’t going to get very far if that’s all the charge that had been given to the EV overnight.


36 posted on 11/17/2023 1:16:47 PM PST by CedarDave (Pfizer's boosters: Side effects make it the medical equivalent of Russian roulette)
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To: alloysteel

Those with our heads screwed on straight know that, but to the loonybirds just the word “nuclear” brings up visions of the “China Syndrome” and everything bad about nuclear power and their heads explode. It’s the same when educated people try to explain the damage done to the predator bird population by hundreds of wind turbines. The end result is what’s important to them, not the ecological damage done getting there.


37 posted on 11/17/2023 1:22:30 PM PST by CedarDave (Pfizer's boosters: Side effects make it the medical equivalent of Russian roulette)
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To: CedarDave

Just one more reason that I hope my truck outlives me.


38 posted on 11/17/2023 1:28:04 PM PST by LegendHasIt
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To: CedarDave

So 3 people on a state board completely change an industry in the state?

Sounds like an easy lawsuit.

It’s also easy to deal with 3 people.


39 posted on 11/17/2023 1:34:59 PM PST by fruser1
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To: alloysteel

100% with you... after throwing that post out there, it occurred to me that micro-reactors would do the trick. You wouldn’t even have to electrify every road... just the major thoroughfares (majors roads in a city, US highways, and interstates), allowing much smaller batteries and home chargers to get you around on non-charged roads. It might actually work.


40 posted on 11/17/2023 1:39:36 PM PST by alancarp (George Orwell was an optimist.)
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