Russo-Ukrainian War: The Reckoning

Big Serge ^ | 11/15/23 | Big Serge

[EnderWiggin1970]

(Excerpt)

Thus we arrived at a convolution situation where, despite Russia’s many obvious advantages (which in the end come down to a superior indigenous capacity to mobilize men, industrial output, and technology), it became “propaganda” to argue that Russia was going to achieve some sort of victory in Ukraine - that Ukraine would end the war having failed to re-attain its 1991 borders (Zelensky’s stated victory condition) and with the country in a wrecked state of demographic hollowing and material destruction....

As the autumn began to drag on without battlefield results materializing for Ukraine, the process of finger pointing began with remarkable predictability. Three distinct lines of thought emerged, with observers in the west blaming a supposed Ukrainian inability to implement western tactics, some Ukrainian parties countering that western armor was too slow to arrive, which gave the Russian army time to fortify its positions, and others arguing that the problem was that the west failed to provide the necessary aircraft and strike systems.

I think that all of this rather misses the point - or rather, all of these factors are merely tangential to the point. The various Ukrainian and western figures pointing fingers at each other are rather like the proverbial blind men describing an elephant. All of these complaints - insufficient training, slow delivery timetables, shortages of air and strike assets - merely reflect the larger problem of attempting to assemble on an improvised basis an entirely new army with a hodgepodge of mismatched foreign systems, in a country with dwindling demographic and industrial assets.

[alexander_busek]

NATO went head on against Russia and got its ass handed to them.

Yes, so many NATO soldiers, airmen, and sailors dead or severely wounded - while Russia has lost a mere 310,000!

Regards,

[mac_truck]

Regurgitating made up casualty numbers is not a good look, but fits quite well into the deceitful western liberal mindset.

Your leaders are eunichs, geriatrics and queers.

[Cronos]

CC “Russian stooges”

Ivanpresto: “Stop the name calling.”

CC - Ivanpreseto doesn’t like it when you call him by his name.

[ganeemead]

"Thus we arrived at a convolution situation where, despite Russia’s many obvious advantages (which in the end come down to a superior indigenous capacity to mobilize men, industrial output, and technology), it became “propaganda” to argue that Russia was going to achieve some sort of victory in Ukraine - that Ukraine would end the war having failed to re-attain its 1991 borders (Zelensky’s stated victory condition) and with the country in a wrecked state of demographic hollowing and material destruction...."

You can say that again, but that's too many big words for our zeeper-wankers here, they won't be able to grasp it.

[freeandfreezing]

Thanks for sharing the delusional ideas of a Russian nationalist. It is always helpful to understand Russian propaganda talking points.

What will they say when the Russian military loses control of the M-14 highway?

[freeandfreezing]

China just need to stop shipping to us and it’s game over.

Except in that situation is it game over for both the USA and China. The Chinese economy is dependent on income from exports to the USA.

[freeandfreezing]

superior indigenous capacity to mobilize men, industrial output, and technology

Only in the fantasies of Russian fan boys. The "industrial output" plus everything else in the Russian economy adds up to roughly the output of Texas or Italy. And that "industrial output" relies on American made machine tools, and parts from the west.

The "technology" is whatever Russia can smuggle in to the country. The ICs in the missiles and fighter planes often have US markings on them because Russia can't even make their own integrated circuits. The motors in their drones are imported, as are the subsystems used for guidance.

They even import the main components of their tank sighting systems.

Maybe Russia is good at rounding up uneducated rural Buryats and sending them, untrained, to die in Ukraine, but that's not really much of a strategy.

[freeandfreezing]

the requirements of provision of the high living standards to its population

Is that why they have given people LED flashlights to find their way to the outhouse at night?

[freeandfreezing]

It’s the single most important weapons system there is

Not anymore. Small armed drones are displacing other systems using older technology.

[CodeJockey]

Well written article. While one may think this was a fail for the US, forget NATO, they are worthless, this cluster has been a boon for the MIC. In many ways.

To quote one of the comments...Of course, their interests COULD be served even BETTER soon. All we need is to open a 2nd front!

[Reverend Wright]

80 percent of casualties in Ukraine on both sides are estimated to be from artillery.

[NorseViking]

Russia has by far the higher sanitation standards than the European, let alone US average.

[Rocco DiPippo]

Quack! Quack! Quack! Blah! Blah! Blah!