Posted on 11/16/2023 10:14:56 AM PST by SeekAndFind
We all laughed as the Democrats looked like they were going to split their party in half over the Israeli-Palestinian war. It was almost farcical watching liberal leaders take a stance that at times looked to favor the Hamas terrorists. Nothing on that level is happening with Candace Owens and Ben Shapiro, yet it’s threatening to tear a fissure in our conservative movement heading into the 2024 election. We can’t afford the infighting.
As much as Shapiro brands himself as a man of “facts and logic,” he opened with a line of personal attack rather than countering her points, calling Owens “absolutely disgraceful” and stating that her points on the issues were “faux-sophistication,” attacking her rather than her arguments. Likewise, Owens has now entered the same arena, calling Shapiro “emotionally unhinged.”
None of this helps the conservative movement. Both Shapiro and Owens have been instrumental in reaching a younger crowd with their messaging and converting different demographics to the cause. Their fracturing only serves to hurt us at a time when we must be more united than ever.
Democrats have shown that they’re willing to do absurd things to maintain their authoritarian control. Don’t forget how Gov. Gavin Newsom even put in a rule to shut down churches in California during the COVID-19 pandemic or how the political prisoners of the peaceful protest of January 6 were treated worse than the real terrorists who were held in Guantanamo Bay when we were rooting out the leaders of the actual terrorist attack that took place on 9/11.
Candace Owens has been saying something different and much more nuanced, which Shapiro should appreciate in the spirit of freedom of speech. Unlike the nuts on the left, she’s not supporting Hamas.
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I’m not going to play your childish semantic games and “gotcha.”
I am questioning Shapiro and his style of argument and rhetoric, not offering suggestions for Israeli policy.
You are pulling something out from 16 years ago to smear someone you dislike ? She was not even an adult then. Why don’t you also post photos of influential conservatives who were ex liberals.. from when they were liberals ?
So what "nuance" is there to discuss about Israel, concerning Hamas's massacres of October 7?
You think the Israelis had it coming?
Owens is apparently anti-war, which happens to be the same political camouflage that many anti-Israel and anti-Jew zealots proudly wear every time Israel is attacked.
Is Owens also anti-war on Ukraine versus Russia? On Taiwan versus the Chinese Communist Party?
I like Candice Owens, but if she is NOT cheering on the complete destruction of the Hamas terror organization, that is definitely poor judgment.
So we should all be liable for the dumb opinions we held as teenagers? Please.
(And I’m sure getting married to a conservative English Catholic, and becoming a mother, did absolutely nothing to change her mind on certain things.)
Please stop your childish, baiting bulls**
You may think you are being a clever debater, but you actually appear as a fool and propagandist
Yes, can’t back up your statements.
There no gotchas.
You’re just trying to smear him because he is Jewish by saying crap you cannot even support.
You need to move beyond the childish, ad-hominem, name-calling logical fallacies
These asshats are as bad at the WWF/WWE.
It’s all noise.
To quote the Bard: “It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.”
What other conclusion can one take from your comments?
You stated he would never question Israel’s government and I simply asked what do you think he should question.
It’s not a trick question.
“Same thing with Ukraine. You have to want to pay for it all and slobber all over Zelensky or you are a Putin supporter.”
Strange, I’ve never said we have to pay for it all or slobbered over Zelensky, and nobody has ever accused me of being a Putin supporter.
‘Tis hyperbole.
Well, I guess you are the lucky one.
They are both childish idiots.
Stick that dual loyalty charge up your rear. I’m 1,000 percent America First, and also support Israel 100 percent. Shapiro need to co? To YESHUA, that is the real issue.
Both of them don’t come to these issues with a biblical worldview.
I’ve got issues with both esp Shapiro
He lost his temper and should make amends
If you don’t look at these events with a biblical Old and New Testment perspective, than you really don’t know what is going on.
Shapiro tolerates Knowles trump support
Ben is a protoneocon
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