[bobbo666]

As with all other conservative causes, the conservatives appear to be too damned stupid to talk to people about limitations.

Any pro-life law that says no abortion under any circumstances is gonna lose, and rightly so. Any conservative supporting this also deserves to lose.

Any such law must allow abortion in 1st trimester for rape, incest, fatal risk to Mom, etc. Lacking that, it deserves to lose and drag down everyone endorsing it.

Yah don’t have to say abortion is OK, just that a compromise along these lines is liveable. Anything less than this is, according to any commie trash with a microphone, tantamount to pushing some sort of theocracy. You will lose and condemn everyone else in this country to commie trash being in charge forever.

You are trading the lives of strangers with the slavery of your grandchildren.

[hoagy62]

Quite frankly, there is only One opinion that matters.

Almighty God.

What does He say? “You shall not murder.”

No. Other. Opinion. Matters.

It matters not what the political ramifications of it may be. It doesn’t matter if we lose elections over this. He expects His people to take a stand and if they take the correct stand, going along with His commands, that’s all you need to do.

He will take care of the rest...even if it’s not exactly the outcome you wanted.

[RasterMaster]

Accepting the lie of "pro-choice" makes you complicit in mass murder. If you cannot stand up for the life of a child, you're a SERIAL KILLER and should join up with the worthless POS jackass party.

[metmom]

Sure, stand before God and explain away why you were willing to cave on baby killing.

[jimtorr]

The Lincoln argument is flawed. He did not fight to ban slavery because he saw the “peculiar institution” as bad economics. He said that he saw the economics of slavery failing in the next 20 years as machinery took over the role of slaves, and he expected planters to abandon human labor. Slavery would thus simply wither away.

That is not happening with abortion.

I agree, however, that it is counterproductive in the near term to simply ban abortion. Better to strangle it with regulation.

[bigbob]

A and sound approach. Which means most FReers will hate it as they’re not tired of losing.

[Carry_Okie]

I think conservatives are approaching this issue in a manner that operates to the detrament of the unborn.

[Bigg Red]

I question whether or not the success of the pro-abortionists in this was through legitimate voting or through the voter fraud, the art of which the left has perfected.

[DiogenesLamp]

Lincoln’s own example is instructive. He regarded slavery as “a vast moral evil.” “Slavery is wrong,” he said, and “one cannot say that people have a right to do wrong” — yet he did not try to ban it in the South. He instead fought unflinchingly against its extension into the western territories and states. He fought the battle that could be won, not the one he was sure to lose.

I love it when people try to explain Lincoln's actions on slavery in moral terms. They clearly do not know that Lincoln and his Republicans voted for a permanent slavery amendment to be added to the US Constitution.

This amendment would have allowed states to chose slavery if they wanted it, and it would therefore have allowed it to be expanded beyond just the existing Southern states.

Most people don't know that Lincoln supported a pro-slavery amendment to the US Constitution, because they have been taught all their lives that the civil war was about slavery.

Well it wasn't. It was about money, and the "Corwin Amendment" pretty much proves it.

[MrBambaLaMamba]

[taxcontrol]

I will not abandon reason for madness. Truth and morals are not subject to polls and elections. They remain the same regardless of who is in power.

[FES0844]

Just show the blood and gore pictures. It’s murder.

[JimRed]

“Kill the baby” has been the Democrat party Prime Directive since about 1970. Why expect any change?

[daniel1212]

There are two main lessons to be learned from Ohio — and from other states where abortion advocates have scored recent victories. The first is that, as Abraham Lincoln understood, “public sentiment is everything” in a republic. One must win the argument before one can change the laws (or before one can keep them from changing in the wrong direction). And one cannot win the argument without being willing to make the argument.
The second is that a majority of Americans want limits on abortion, but they don’t want to eliminate it. They don’t want abortion on demand, but even less do they want an outright ban. After a half-century of legalized abortion imposed by activist judges, pro-lifers need to cultivate voters’ trust by emphasizing the need to limit rather than eliminate abortion, while emphasizing that pro-abortion advocates support abortion up until birth.

There are two main lessons to be learned from Gaza — and from other locations where Jewish abolition advocates have scored victories. The first is that, as Abraham Lincoln understood, “public sentiment is everything” in a republic. One must win the argument before one can change the laws (or before one can keep them from changing in the wrong direction). And one cannot win the argument without being willing to make the argument.

The second is that a majority of American media and universities want limits on killing Jews, but they don’t want to eliminate it. They don’t want abolition of Jews on demand, but even less do they want an outright ban.

Related:

As the fetus grows to the point that it is too large to simply suck out of the womb, the most common method of terminating the child’s life is called dilation and evacuation. After the mother is put under anesthesia, abortion providers go in with “suction and gynecological instruments” to empty the uterus. Or at least that’s how it’s described by most clinics. The truth is that those “gynecological instruments” are used to dismember the fetus in the womb, typically while the child is still alive, and then pull him or her out piece by piece....Roughly 95 percent of second- and third-trimester abortions—which account for approximately 11 percent of all abortions—utilize this method. ... Does a fetus feel pain? Initially, this approach was justified by arguing that a fetus cannot feel pain until after twenty-four to twenty-five weeks of development,

HAMAS believes that Jews cannot feel pain as they are being fragmented, blown up using genocidal instruments, with death being instantaneous, and agrees to only kill those who cannot feel pain.

Arguing for pro-choice abolition rights over Jews, they also assert that as owners of their land they have a right to unburden themselves from unwanted flesh. Planned Purgationhood, the HAMAS branch of the US Planned [de]Parenthood, welcomed the news as being largely consistent with their own pro-choice position.

https://wisconsinrighttolife.org/pictures-of-aborted-babies-view#1642394275094-9e5f5d87-37c0/b>