Posted on 11/13/2023 8:07:24 AM PST by george76
Hawaiian life on Maui goes on as though there was no horrendous fire in Lahaina in August. Tourists are back, although not snorkeling with dead bodies floating in the ocean; the state is doing a land grab around Lahaina, under the guise of land being donated; islanders have stopped talking about the fire.
No one is now mentioning that the most elaborate alarm system in the U.S. failed to warn residents of the fire, or that water was not released for five hours until permission was given by farmers who control the use of 61% of the reservoir water in the state.
Fingers are also pointed at the Maui Police Department for many of the deaths. They blocked the roads of Lahaina, claiming there were downed power wires that were dangerous to drivers. But at 4:11 p.m. Hawaii Electric has a recording telling the police that the electricity was shut off.
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We have all seen the rows of burned-out cars of people trying to escape the fire. Oddly, none of their car doors were open. Families were cremated together.
King Kamehameha III Elementary School burned to the ground.
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2,746 students of the 3,001 total enrollment of Lahaina students were accounted for. In a published list of the dead, only three children are named. Where are the other 252 children?
Green keeps telling the media that there were 99 deaths. That is a lie. A Maui resident told me that the number is much higher based on all the trucks he saw transporting bodies. Green doesn’t want anyone to know that there could still be as many as 1,000 people missing.
(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...
The Left lies. It’s what they do.
Maybe there were many more deaths, but it was for The Good of the State!/s
Oprah gets to expand her estates ?
Why the /s tag?
Besides the fault of government with the fires, I am going to say something thats not PC. What did the residents and business owners do when Lahaina almost burned down in2018? Where was the protests, lawsuits, discussion with politicians about the threat they faced? I know some people who lived in Lahaina, and it was a concern to them. But nobody pushed the government to do anything. I know, if that was my neighborhood , and a threat was looming my neighbors and I would be much more vocal, and pushing for action. The Hawaii mentality to not fight back.
Bush was pilloried for years for Katrina—- the problems they’re not even having been his fault. Yet this grievous disaster goes right down the memory hole
I visited there in 1999. I was surprised back then it had not burned down or destroyed by a hurricane.
This conspiracy stuff is a bunch of crap. The cause was INCOMPETENCE, nepotism and the international agriculture market.
People in charge of government positions because they were connected politically or were native islanders.
No more sugar cane and pineapple fields being irrigated throughout the dry season. The environmentalists are partially to blame for this.
So, all the former ag fields are not planted.
Just a lot of brush encroaching the developments.
Another not PC statement I am going to say. The Hawaiians blamed the white plantation owners of destroying the land by rerouting irrigation, killing the native plants and ponds for agriculture. When agriculture was gone, the fields became a fire hazard.But who allowed the pineapple and sugar cane fields to develop? It was the Hawaiian monarchs who leased the land to the plantation owners. The monarchs got money from the leases, enabling them to build palaces and travel the world. But, we cannot say anything about that in Hawaii.
I don't think it's that.
I lived there for thirty years. The corruption in Hawaii government at all levels is unbelievable if you haven't seen it first hand.
Born and raised there. Lived there until I was age 38. I still have family there.. The mentality is to accept and not fight back. Its a live and let live attitude. That attitude does not allow investigation into corruption which is endemic in Hawaii. Local news does not investigate ( except for civil beat) . I applaud the residents of Lahaina who got mainland attorneys ( over the protest of government officials) to fight their case, because I think local attorneys are suspect. That is why no one bothered to protest in 2018 when Lahaina almost burned down. Whats really ridiculous is people posting on social media they lost their job and rental house, but have not bothered to do anything about their current situation. Living in a hotel the government is paying for, getting a monthly stipend from FEMA and not doing anything. Lahaina is going to take many years to come back, and its going to be a community for the rich. No one middle income or lower is going to be able to live there. Those jobs and homes are gone, take the money and leave while you are still getting money from the government. Start over in a new town.But, they are staying in hotels they will eventually get kicked out of, the stipends will go away and they will be homeless. My friends left 5 days after the fire, knew it was a lost cause. Its a laid back attitude that winds up costing them.
I’ve heard Hawaiians are pretty mellow.
The Democrat Party Organized Crime Syndicate will just kill more of them to get what they want.
Zoning laws
4 - 5 homes / lot
Street car urban development
Wall to Wall home - shops
It’s all ticking time bomb
Just like nero - the fall
Of the collapsing empire of rome
Things are so much simpler under communism...
No problems... No worries...
Compared to some of the other commentators I’m a newcomer to Hawaii-24 years.
I live on the Big island.
I do not surf, I do NOT go along to get along.
I do not buy into this special “Hawaii” crap.
Everything here is imported, from the “non-invasive”
native plants to the Lost Canadian geese that have adapted to life here that we call Nene, to the Polynesian invaders of a millennia ago.
Lahina will never go back to being a humble plantation town.
Nor will it become like the Mormon owned Polynesian cultural center on Oahu.
Hawaii is a single party deep blue state because in one way shape or form most everybody that votes depends on the government, the state’s largest employer.
Rich tourists in Lahina pay more taxes than a hotel worker living in Nana’s house.
I will be repaired and become another Maui Rich people enclave.
Rant off.
Why the /s tag? I didn’t want anyone to mistake me for a democrat.
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