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Is The Electric Vehicle Revolution Still Happening?
Oil Price ^ | 11/08/23 | Irina Slav

Posted on 11/08/2023 10:35:18 AM PST by SeekAndFind

During the latest profit season, executives from the auto industry probably surprised many by announcing revisions to their EV plans.

GM gave up its production targets. Tesla's Elon Musk warned about waning EV demand. Honda and GM canceled their joint venture that would have developed more affordable EVs.

Cars are piling up in dealers' lots. Thousands of chargers are not working, and there are not enough technicians to fix them. The EV dream might be over before it really began.

"As we get further into the transformation to EV, it's a bit bumpy," GM's chief executive, Mary Barra, said at the presentation of the auto major's third-quarter results.

Mercedes-Benz CFO Harald Wilhelm was blunter:

"This is a pretty brutal space," he said on the Q3 earnings call.

"I can hardly imagine the current status quo is fully sustainable for everybody."

The status quo Wilhelm referenced features rising EV sales, which might make some wonder why the executive is unhappy about it. BloomergNEF recently reported, for instance, that global EV sales are this year set to hit a record high, topping 14 million. China will account for most of these, but Europe, where Mercedes-Benz is based, has been steadily boosting its EV fleet, too, with sales this year set to log a 25% increase, per BloombergNEF.


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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: automotive; cars; ev; greenenergy
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1 posted on 11/08/2023 10:35:18 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

No.


2 posted on 11/08/2023 10:35:54 AM PST by Jonty30 (It turns out that I did not buy my cell phone for all the calls I might be missing at home.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Is The Electric Vehicle Revolution Still Happening?

This _is_ the electric revolution: forcing an unwanted product onto unwilling consumers.
3 posted on 11/08/2023 10:38:03 AM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

It’s to make all personal transportation unaffordable for the masses.


4 posted on 11/08/2023 10:38:57 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Jonty30

Can’t get the materials because of supply chains. And, cannot figure out how to sell them for a profit.


5 posted on 11/08/2023 10:39:27 AM PST by MMusson
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To: SeekAndFind
Is The Electric Vehicle Revolution Still Happening?

It turns my stomach to think of them replacing ICE cars. Does that count as a revolution?

6 posted on 11/08/2023 10:40:07 AM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Ford eliminated their entire 4-door sedan line entirely and moved to an all-EV fleet.

-PJ

7 posted on 11/08/2023 10:42:10 AM PST by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: SeekAndFind

“GM gave up its production targets. Tesla’s Elon Musk warned about waning EV demand. “

GM up 50% YOY. Tesla up 35%.


8 posted on 11/08/2023 10:43:02 AM PST by TexasGator
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

“forcing an unwanted product onto unwilling consumers.”

No buyers have been forced.


9 posted on 11/08/2023 10:44:16 AM PST by TexasGator
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To: SeekAndFind

Yes - but we’re in the Jacobin Phase of “the Revolution:” The part where a small group of ideologue tyrants force their absurd plans upon you.


10 posted on 11/08/2023 10:44:23 AM PST by PGR88
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To: SeekAndFind

There never was one.


11 posted on 11/08/2023 10:44:39 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: TexasGator

RE: GM up 50% YOY. Tesla up 35%.

I DARE anyone to buy their stocks at these prices.


12 posted on 11/08/2023 10:46:05 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
I DARE anyone to buy their stocks at these prices.

You're shorting them, right?

13 posted on 11/08/2023 10:48:49 AM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

More like failing to design and build EVs that meet the use case and budget of potential buyers.


14 posted on 11/08/2023 10:53:03 AM PST by bigbob
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To: bigbob

“More like failing to design and build EVs that meet the use case and budget of potential buyers.”

Then why are EV’s gaining market share?


15 posted on 11/08/2023 10:55:54 AM PST by TexasGator
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

Imagine if we sold everyone nuclear cars and told them to worry about where they could refuel the reactors later. LOL.


16 posted on 11/08/2023 11:24:17 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: dfwgator
It’s to make all personal transportation unaffordable for the masses.

More or less correct. The powers-that-be do want to eliminate personal ownership of private vehicles, and steer people towards using mass transit. Unfortunately, mass transit doesn't work well for the masses.

Pushing people towards EV's is one step; along the way they'll reduce ownership of ICE vehicles and gas stations in their present form. Later on, they'll push people towards shared ridership in taxis in newer forms. During these phases, they'll eliminate spaces used by private vehicles and repurpose that land to more compact use. That means concentrating people in high-rise towers close to their work and necessary goods. Of course it won't work out well for the masses.

The future does not bode well for private ownership of vehicles, and the freedom that used to be taken for granted.

17 posted on 11/08/2023 11:24:31 AM PST by roadcat
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To: TexasGator

“Then why are EV’s gaining market share?”

Then why are EV’s piling up on dealers’ lots?


18 posted on 11/08/2023 11:25:22 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: TexasGator
GM up 50% YOY. Tesla up 35%.

You're talking about EV's, right? GM made what, 26 EV's last year, so 50% growth is possible. Meanwhile, Tesla makes over a million last year. Actual figures for Tesla last year "... in 2022, Tesla produced 1,369,611 electric cars (up 47 percent year-over-year)". 47% growth for Tesla, not 35% - and on a million EV's.

19 posted on 11/08/2023 11:28:50 AM PST by roadcat
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“You’re talking about EV’s, right? GM made what, 26 EV’s last year, so 50% growth is possible.”

ROTFLMAO! GM sold over 300k last QUARTER!


20 posted on 11/08/2023 11:33:57 AM PST by TexasGator
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