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To: Lazamataz

Trump has driven the Republican Party off a cliff the last 5 years.

The only big winner we’ve seen in all that time was DeSantis is 2022, but according to Trump we’re supposed to hate him.

Pick whoever you want. Just expect to keep losing so long as Trump is our brand name.


143 posted on 11/08/2023 5:44:21 AM PST by Golden Eagle (Jesus 2024)
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To: Golden Eagle

McCain and Romney already drove it over the cliff.


146 posted on 11/08/2023 5:45:48 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Golden Eagle
Trump has driven the Republican Party off a cliff the last 5 years.

This is absolutely false. Trump only materialized as a political player in this country because the Republican Party was already lying in a wrecked heap at the bottom of the cliff by the time we got to 2016.

I would attribute the collapse of the GOP to three political figures in particular:

1. George W. Bush
2. Paul Ryan
3. Mitch McConnell

To get a sense of just how inept, feckless and corrupt the party was before Trump arrived, just consider these three losers:

This was supposed to be the "new generation of conservative leaders," and yet two of them have vanished from the political scene in disgrace and the third was just toppled from his position as House Speaker because he was such an ineffective loser who betrayed his own party in his leadership role.

166 posted on 11/08/2023 6:20:34 AM PST by Alberta's Child (If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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To: Golden Eagle
Who we pick is a completely different topic. What I am rejecting is much narrower. You said that Trump's endorsement sunk the KY governor's opponent. That is something you would want to put some evidence behind, because I read elsewhere that Kentucky voted Trump in the last election by a 26% margin.

Gov. Andy Beshear is popular in KY. He doesn't act like a leftist loon and he does his job when disaster strikes. The people of KY like him, that's really the long and short of it.

171 posted on 11/08/2023 6:26:23 AM PST by Lazamataz (The firearms I own today, are the firearms I will die with. How I die will be up to them.)
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