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Virginia’s Youngkin says Biden is ‘legitimately elected president’
The Hill ^ | 11/05/2023 | MIRANDA NAZZARO

Posted on 11/05/2023 12:28:00 PM PST by ChicagoConservative27

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To: frog in a pot
That is why this specific fight is by any measure, as you suggest, "...a fight that can’t be won and is not worth expending energy on..."

Disagree. It is important that the public know and believe that election fraud is a serious problem and that all the suffering they are undergoing now is the consequence of tolerating election fraud.

161 posted on 11/06/2023 9:52:37 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: x
But now ask them if they like hearing Trump (or anybody) go on about it. I wish Youngkin had answered the question better, but I think most voters are tired of hearing about 2020. They may think that if anything could have been done about it, it would have been, and since there wasn't, it's best to just put it behind us.

Had the media-liars provided the evidence of vote fraud in the swing states, Americans would be outraged and demanding something be done about it.

Our problem is the same as always. Media-liars control the airwaves and they control what the public hears. They present every story with a skew helpful to the corrupt powers of DC, and against anyone trying to reform the corruption.

The Media-liars are simply the mouth organ of the corrupt national government. They are even inbred with it having wives and husbands shared between the two groups.

The media-liars are the greatest threat this country currently faces, and the stupid half of the population simply believes whatever the media-liars tell them to believe.

162 posted on 11/06/2023 10:00:44 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp
Disagree. ...election fraud is a serious problem...

On that we both agree; even when described as a serious problem, it is an understatement.

But there are two issues: election fraud and the most recent presidential election. I suspect we agree on each.

The former we can do something about, the latter there is nothing. Congress said there was "nothing" wrong with the recent election despite our "lying eyes".

163 posted on 11/06/2023 10:09:17 AM PST by frog in a pot (The water in this pot is getting warmer; hopefully, you recognize that as well.)
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To: Eagle Forgotten
but the raw numbers by themselves don’t prove anything. If they did, Dinesh D’Souza wouldn’t have needed to make a whole film about the mules.”

I disagree. The numbers are nuts on their own face.

https://spectator.org/pennsylvania-voting-data-troubling-patterns/

The key is that each party’s vote total was way, way up over prior years.

The difference was *OUR* votes were real, and Biden's votes were fake.

Barack Obama represents the pinnacle of what Democrat voters can achieve. His election was "pull out all the stops" in the Democrat vote getting system.

It is insane to believe that corrupt, pervy, senile Old Joe Biden could possibly get as many *REAL* votes as Barack Obama.

164 posted on 11/06/2023 10:17:13 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Eagle Forgotten
Obama, in his two national campaigns, received 52.9% and 51.1% of the popular vote. Biden got 51.3%. That’s a pretty narrow range. I don’t see anything extraordinary in Biden’s percentage. Certainly nothing shows that he was hugely unpopular.

Stop. Do you know which numbers absolutely do not matter? Popular vote numbers. Of course corrupt idiot gets California, New York and Illinois. He gets the liberal Northwest and the Liberal Northeast. This gives him the popular vote, but popular vote doesn't matter in winning the presidency. You have to get the electoral votes, and those only matter in the swing states.

The election was stolen in Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Georgia, Arizona and Nevada. And in each case, subsequent proof of corruption has come out, some of it years to late to do us any good other than to inform us of how corrupt those swing state elections were.

A lot more ballots were cast in 2020 than in any prior year. Or do you think that Trump’s big increase “strained credulity”?

As I said before, Trump's votes are *REAL* while Biden's increases in the swing states are fake. Nobody likes that piece of sh*t, and he did not get more votes than Barack Obama. He didn't even get as many as Barack Obama.

Biden's votes were just fake. In Maricopa county Arizona, the Military overseas ballots went from roughly 3000 in 1016, to 9000 in 2020, and they were *95% for Joe BIDEN!*

False on the face of it. Arizona is already a Republican state, and the Military leans heavily Republican. There is no way in hell that Military Ballots went for Joe Biden, let alone at the rate of 95% !!

165 posted on 11/06/2023 10:25:00 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp

I assumed that the voters would massively reject the Democrats in 2022. They didn’t. Not enough to win the Senate anyway. This makes me skeptical about people who think that what they read and say here reflects how the country will vote.

More people have put 2020 behind than are still angry about it. People’s doubts about the election makes them cynical, not outraged. And then of course, there are people who just believe what Biden and the media say. But even the people who believe that there was voter fraud aren’t all up in arms about it.


166 posted on 11/06/2023 4:43:05 PM PST by x (Formerly Twitter.)
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To: DiogenesLamp

Yes, how true.

Your Lamp shines on the Truth and Facts

Lies and Fake News scurry like cockroaches.


167 posted on 11/06/2023 5:49:41 PM PST by Syncro (God is Good Facts is Facts)
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To: DiogenesLamp; All; folks

Yep, Trump’s lawyers filed massive lawsuits and judges/courts wouldn’t even look at them .

Many proved massive fraud.

The dems said the suits were shown to be false.

Which the masses believed.

How could that be true when courts/judges refused to look at them?

Mostly were thrown out without being looked at.

They said they did NOT have ‘standing.’
Clever tactic.

Fake News Rules!


168 posted on 11/06/2023 6:02:33 PM PST by Syncro (God is Good Facts is Facts)
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To: central_va

He is either too dumb to see the truth, or too dishonest to tell the truth.   Either way, I'll never vote for him.   If he ever seeks my vote for anything, he will never get it.

169 posted on 11/06/2023 6:56:43 PM PST by Songcraft
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To: FreeReign

"I think most people are tired of the cheating. Putting the cheating "behind us" will not solve the problem in 2024.

Some of the posters here seem to be saying we should ignore the cheating, and just forget about it.   That reminds me of the way many stores and "governmental authorities" in big cities chose to just ignore all the looters, and shoplifters, and real rioters, and to turn a blind eye towards vandals and arsonists, and now they are wondering where all their customers went, and many are now being forced to begin to take steps to close, or to relocate outside those cities.

170 posted on 11/06/2023 7:14:33 PM PST by Songcraft
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To: x
I assumed that the voters would massively reject the Democrats in 2022. They didn’t. Not enough to win the Senate anyway.

When we look at the 2022 election in Maricopa county Arizona, we see evidence of serious malfeasance, implying corruption in my mind.

I don't think it is a coincidence that they uncork massive election fraud tactics in 2020, and we get similar results in 2022. Nobody did anything about the 2020 fraud, so of course they are going to do it again.

And this if over and above the effect the media-liars have on manipulating the voters.

Not enough to win the Senate anyway. This makes me skeptical about people who think that what they read and say here reflects how the country will vote.

*IF*, election fraud is happening, and I believe it is, we can no longer tell how the country is voting based simply on the election results.

I note that when California legalized "ballot harvesting", we lost something like 13 congressional seats in California.

This is not a coincidence, but a result of the corrupt tactics of fake ballots being injected into the system.

But even the people who believe that there was voter fraud aren’t all up in arms about it.

Not enough of them, that's for sure. *I* am certainly still furious about it, and regard it as one of the most significant issues affecting this country.

I am disgusted about how many people in our leadership won't even recognize it as a problem, and those who deny it even happened, and this without ever bothering to look at the evidence.

171 posted on 11/07/2023 7:54:41 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Syncro

Yup.


172 posted on 11/07/2023 7:55:52 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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