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The US Military is Stretched Thin
Hotair ^ | 11/01/2023 | David Strom

Posted on 11/01/2023 9:48:00 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 11/01/2023 9:48:00 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
the US military is stretched really thin.

The US military isn't actually fighting anywhere. But they gave all of their ammunition to Ukraine (because Zelensky is the Messiah?), and they can't fight now.

2 posted on 11/01/2023 9:52:26 PM PDT by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: SeekAndFind

Rumors Israel wants US to police Gaza when the fighting ends isn’t going to help recruiting efforts - just sayin


3 posted on 11/01/2023 9:54:15 PM PDT by 11th_VA (<><)
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To: SeekAndFind

THe USA has a trillion dollar a year military, and can’t produce artillery ammunition in quantity. And even years from now will only generate a fraction of what Russia produces right now.

And Israel. They have gotten billions of dollars per year for decades from the USA, and they are short of the basics, like body armor.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/reserve-soldiers-complain-that-equipment-is-lacking-or-substandard/

I think the common factor is a Swamp capture of the military contracting process, where larger payoffs are available for big ticket gold plated wonder weapons - vs the basics like artillery shells, body armor and helmets.


4 posted on 11/01/2023 9:55:12 PM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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Former USAF officer.

1) Patriots in theater are pretty much useless against a drone swarm attack, and that swarm will destroy them — which then opens the sky up for the next wave.

2) Patriots cannot stop hypersonics. There was a silly claim of a shootdown some months ago. It was silly.

3) There is an enormous problem of presumption of superiority. It is leading to very bad decisions about all sorts of things. The intelligence services of all sides understand fast fourier transforms and the know who is superior in what. The Russians AND Chinese have substantial technology advantages in specific areas. The US has . . . a few. Unfortunately they are so few that they must be guarded at essentially all costs — those being having it stolen. This focuses on Stealth. We can’t deploy it because the loss magnitude is so huge. A 10% risk of a 1000% cost is a pretty big number.

4) Wars are decided in space. Satellite recon dictates everything. You cannot maneuver without being seen so there are no surprises. Ever.

The biggest danger is that we need to stop swaggering and asserting strength that does not exist. This kind of insanity is going to get 5000 crew carrier sunk.


5 posted on 11/01/2023 10:04:48 PM PDT by Owen (.)
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To: Reverend Wright
they are short of the basics, like body armor.

Don't worry about body armor. Soldiers can't move and fight weighed down by all the body armor. Body armor is important for countries in defense, not on offense. The United States won WW2 with zero body armor.

6 posted on 11/01/2023 10:04:57 PM PDT by Right_Wing_Madman
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RE: Rumors Israel wants US to police Gaza when the fighting ends isn’t going to help recruiting efforts - just sayin

Especially coupled with Blinken rumored to support having the old Palestinian Authority leader in charge of the West Bank after the dust settles. Just fine for picking off US or IDF security troops.

Then Biden will withdraw diplomats and leave Americans stranded like his “successful withdrawal” from Afghanistan.


7 posted on 11/01/2023 10:51:20 PM PDT by frank ballenger (“My job is to inform, not to convince.” St. Bernadette Soubirous )
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To: SeekAndFind
The US government’s primary responsibility is to the American people, and policymakers must provide a reason beyond “these are the good guys” for spending large amounts of money on support for other countries.

How about: "And the guys attacking the 'good guys' are simultaneously targeting U.S. cities with their nuclear-tipped ICBMs. So they're obviously the 'bad guys?'"

"The enemy of my enemy is my friend." Works for me!

Regards,

8 posted on 11/02/2023 12:26:33 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: Right_Wing_Madman
The US military isn't actually fighting anywhere. But they gave all of their ammunition to Ukraine (because Zelensky is the Messiah?), and they can't fight now.

Yeah, those two aircraft carrier groups currently deployed to the eastern Mediterranean? They are completely impotent! Couldn't put up much of a fight even only against a Russian fishing trawler!

/sarcasm

Regards,

9 posted on 11/02/2023 12:29:23 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: Owen
The Russians AND Chinese have substantial technology advantages in specific areas. The US has . . . a few.

Yeah, we'd be so f*cked if the Russian military - currently fielding the second-greatest army in Ukraine - ever wanted to mess with us! The glorious Russian military - or what's left of it after bleeding out on the battlefields of Ukraine - would give us a real walloping, wouldn't they?

Regards,

10 posted on 11/02/2023 12:33:40 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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Rumors Israel wants US to police Gaza when the fighting ends

Who wouldn't signup to become an Israeli Pinkerton?

11 posted on 11/02/2023 3:52:40 AM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: SeekAndFind

Probably a good thing since 70% are overweight !!

Let’s face it liberals F up everything they touch. They’re a terminal cancer that should be eradicated.

Can anyone name one thing that liberals have done or believe in that makes sense?


12 posted on 11/02/2023 3:53:36 AM PDT by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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To: Owen
Wars are decided in space. Satellite recon dictates everything. You cannot maneuver without being seen so there are no surprises. Ever.

They want you to believe that there are satellites watching your every move but they still depend on high altitude aircraft.

13 posted on 11/02/2023 4:45:25 AM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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And presently, see everything up close drones.


14 posted on 11/02/2023 4:49:05 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Joe Biden is a kleptocrat)
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To: SeekAndFind
Who needs a standing army that is being groomed to turn in on us without hesitation. It's obvious.

Starve the beast.

15 posted on 11/02/2023 4:58:37 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: SeekAndFind

Lloyd Austin testified the other that requests for multibillions of additional funding were essentially to replenish our own inventories and to maintain the defense industrial base. All this while freely spending hundreds of billions on worthless green initiatives that in the end will not work anyway.

This gangster regime is not serious about governing and we will pay the price.


16 posted on 11/02/2023 6:59:15 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative)
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There have been minimal casualties on the Russian side, mostly because of satellite recon.

They only mobilized 300K guys from their 20 million reserves. Recall, from the pre war wiki, that they have universal conscription. They have for decades. They train the draftee for 1 year and then send him home to his civilian life, and add him to their Reserves forces, where they remain until age whatever, 45 or something. At that point they leave the Reserves.

Because it is universal conscription (with the usual exceptions like university students) and so over the decades the Reserves total have grown to 20 million. One place in the Wiki quoted 25 million.

Only 300K of these were mobilized, and the Russians tend to withdraw from places when satellites show the enemy has massed for attack. They prefer to use their artillery totals advantage and kill that mass from afar.

So . . . at maximum there could be 300K casualties, which of course has not happened. All military officers everywhere have been trained to withdraw if there are 30% casualties. Odds are nearly 100% the Russians have not seen 30% casualties on any battlefield, because satellite recon informs them to be gone.

The Ukraine forces aren’t being commanded by a trained officer, so they may have far beyond 30%. No one knows. Well, some know, but we don’t.


17 posted on 11/02/2023 9:00:30 AM PDT by Owen (.)
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To: T.B. Yoits

Not really relevant. The point is no surprises. Not whatever you believe why there are no surprises.

You cannot mass troops without it being seen. That’s why artillery is deciding things. If there is a mass and you don’t have a mass, you withdraw and let your artillery kill the mass. You are never surprised.

The big difference is Ukraine is not being led by a trained military officer. He will not withdraw if faced with slaughter by artillery. He is not stupid. He knows he cannot generate weapons flow if he withdraws. And so he is killing a generation of his own young men.


18 posted on 11/02/2023 9:04:02 AM PDT by Owen (.)
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To: alexander_busek; Owen
Yeah, we'd be so f*cked if the Russian military - currently fielding the second-greatest army in Ukraine - ever wanted to mess with us! The glorious Russian military - or what's left of it after bleeding out on the battlefields of Ukraine - would give us a real walloping, wouldn't they?

What you fantasize as the greatest army in Ukraine continues to be sensely slaughtered in Ukraine. They are getting mauled by the superior force. In any military conflict between Ukraine and Russia, Ukraine cannot win. Perhaps the truest statement Field Marshal Zelensky ever made was to declare that nobody believes Ukraine can win like he does.

19 posted on 11/02/2023 9:25:51 AM PDT by woodpusher
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To: Owen
In your post #5, you touted Russia's and China's alleged technological edge over the U.S.

When I cast doubt upon that, you responded by praising Russia's 20 million in reserves - who, if you are to be believed, are champing at the bit to jump into the trenches.

Nice evasion!

(Don't want to contribute to the further meandering of this conversation away from the actual topic at hand, but: I wonder if Russia could even kit out 20 million conscripts.)

Whatever you care to say about Russia's military prowess and/or might, the facts on the ground belie your bold claims.

The combined forces of NATO are greater than Russia's already severely attrited forces, both numerically and qualitatively.

The economic power of the NATO countries exceeds that of Russia's already (due to the sanctions) hamstrung economy.

Russia has a higher tolerance than Western countries when it comes to bearing incredible levels of self-inflicted damage and demoralization - samogon' is apparently a very effective panacea - but Ukraine need only survive to prevail. For Russia, anything other than a clear win will be counted as a defeat.

Regards,

20 posted on 11/02/2023 10:16:23 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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