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To: bitt
The Israelis are some of the most innovative problem solvers in the military world.

The Gaza tunnels have been a huge problem for 20 years.

Reasonably confidant that they have come up with some innovative solutions to deal with the tunnel problems without having to resort to going in and engaging in tunnel CQB which is suicide.

The tunnel strategy only works for Hamas as long as they have complete control of above ground in Gaza.

The Izzys are changing the rules of the game by taking control of the above ground areas of the tunnels.

Once Hamas has lost control of the surface and freedom to operate above ground, tunnels are very unpleasant and dangerous place to be.

It is also very dangerous and unpleasant to be in tunnels in the South of Gaza after the Israelis have control of the what is left of the tunnel systems in the North.

The media and the talking heads on TV have been trying to persuade the public that the Hamas tunnels are Israels biggest threat and Hamas’s biggest asset.

IMHO, the tunnels are going end up being Hamas’s biggest liability and probably their ultimate downfall.

One big advantage for the Israelis is the fact that the tunnels are an unambiguously military target and they can be deal with in relative secrecy and in a way that the media has no way of covering. They will destroy the tunnels in detail at their leisure once they have sufficient control of the surface.

The reality is that Israel is almost certainly going to in de facto control of Gaza for some length of time at the end of the operation in any settlement to ensure the complete de militarization of the Hamas/Iran built infrastructure, including the tunnels. p>

36 posted on 11/01/2023 11:10:42 AM PDT by rdcbn1
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To: rdcbn1
As long as you have the above ground secure; just wait...

 How to overcome your enemies without really trying...


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106 posted on 11/02/2023 12:16:52 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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