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Commentary: How we got COVID’s risk right but the response wrong
Portland Press Herald ^ | 29 October A.D. 2023 | Justin Fox

Posted on 10/29/2023 10:33:06 AM PDT by lightman

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Likely to be swept over by the attention given to the Lewiston, Maine shootings.
1 posted on 10/29/2023 10:33:06 AM PDT by lightman
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COVID response was like Ukraine response: intent is more important than actual results.

2 posted on 10/29/2023 10:43:31 AM PDT by Right_Wing_Madman
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Notice like all true believers, he still goes out of his way to piss all over the Great Barrington Declaration -- and uses the great character-assault word "credibility".

Because it's not about the facts, it's about the narrative: and then using the narrative, about money and power. Thanks, lightman. *PING* to the rest of you.

3 posted on 10/29/2023 10:44:02 AM PDT by grey_whiskers ( The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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Jay Bhattacharya “coauthored an article for the Wall Street Journal questioning the validity of the scary 2 to 4 percent fatality rate that the early models like Neil Ferguson’s were estimating – and that were causing governments to panic. He believed (correctly, as it turns out), that the true fatality rate was much lower.”

I'm guessing there are still real scientists in the world - and they tend to get things right. But this pandemic information was passed to celebrity "scientists" - and they're the same folks who freaked about global cooling, global warming, peak oil, ozone hole, population bomb etc etc etc. And THEY made it a freak out and caused the panic.

Ok, now I'm going to go back and finish readying the article to find out the actual answer.

4 posted on 10/29/2023 10:44:53 AM PDT by GOPJ (The reason Biden won't protect our border is he wants cash kickbacks for doing it. )
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There were conservatives who went soft on the fear mongering because they were eager to blame the disease on the Chinese or the illegals. And then there were conservatives who accepted masking because doctors wear them around open wounds.


5 posted on 10/29/2023 10:52:17 AM PDT by Socon-Econ (adi)
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This guy is proud of himself for guessing 300-600k would die of Covid, based on the CDC report that 550k died, right in his range.

Doesn’t he realize those people died with Covid and not of it?

My prediction was far closer: zero.

Covid was a hoax whereby people dying of any cause while testing positive for Covid, were counted as Covid deaths.


6 posted on 10/29/2023 10:58:22 AM PDT by enumerated (81 million votes my ass)
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Missing from this article is the deceptive denigration of effective therapeutics such as HCQ and Ivermectin in the name of emergency approval for pharmaceutical profit centers.


7 posted on 10/29/2023 10:58:34 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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No, the risk was NEVER correct. Scott Atlas’s book shows that they were all the time missing the total number of cases precisely because it was NOT deadly, that most people had a mild flu and never reported, that the tests were terrible, and that the real number of cases was several orders of magnitude greater than those known.

In other words, the death rate was very small.


8 posted on 10/29/2023 11:02:49 AM PDT by LS
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The response was motivated by one thing. “How can we use this to take Trump out?”. Everything rotated around that objective.


9 posted on 10/29/2023 11:03:57 AM PDT by gibsonguy ( )
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The vaunted Imperial College of London and the physician-revered Lancet both seriously discredited themselves with flawed “ analysis” at the outset and during the event

A review of the data manipulation early-on used by the Imperial College to project mortality was sad and scandalous ( sorry have lost the sourcing that reviewed this)…yet that was the alarmist data used to influence Trump’s decisions….

Only time and history are going to rid us of the apologists for their past failures.

And will we ever get honest reflections of how many “ covid deaths” were actually caused by willful lack of treatment with HCQ or IVM, and how many were killed by dysfunctional but mandated use of remdesivir and ventilators


10 posted on 10/29/2023 11:04:18 AM PDT by silverleaf (Inside Every Progressive Is A Totalitarian Screaming To Get Out” —David Horowitz)
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Nope

Got the risk wrong too jerkoff author


11 posted on 10/29/2023 11:04:46 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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Thanks for the info.

Can you send me a link to the book, please?

12 posted on 10/29/2023 11:04:58 AM PDT by grey_whiskers ( The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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A huge steaming pantload. They just cannot let it go. Lockdowns were not REALLY lockdowns, Sweden really wasn’t so free after all. And I notice this assclown skims right over three critical facts.

One, the flu completely disappeared during the pandemic. It went to almost zero.

Two, a massive majority of the deaths were medical misadventure, to be polite. Remdesivir to kill the kidneys, them pump with fluids while under complete sedation on a machine, and no family allowed in? That’s a straight up a recipe for death.

And three, there was massive death certificate fraud where dying within 6 weeks or whatever of a positive test was considered death by covid.


13 posted on 10/29/2023 11:12:43 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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Good point. Denying effective therapies was point number 4. It was depraved to say stay at home until you are so sick you must be hospitalized.


14 posted on 10/29/2023 11:16:19 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: lightman

risk was inflated


15 posted on 10/29/2023 11:20:27 AM PDT by joshua c (to disrupt the system, we must disrupt our lives, cut the cable tv)
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The author is an idiot. Not much of a mea culpa.


16 posted on 10/29/2023 11:23:38 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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stay at home until you are so sick you must be hospitalized

Intubation was a veritable death sentence.

17 posted on 10/29/2023 11:33:44 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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Yeah, NO!
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18 posted on 10/29/2023 11:37:51 AM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this💩? 🚫💉! 🇮🇱👍!)
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I pretty sure they got it all wrong.


19 posted on 10/29/2023 11:45:59 AM PDT by CommieCutter
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Five - the mass of collateral damage to society as a result of the covid communism. Clinics, doctors offices slammed shut without a plan B on how to continue care for those with chronic illnesses. A lot of people around here were found dead in their homes or died behind the wheel of their cars causing some nasty wrecks. Dialysis patients took a heavy hit on that I know. Others wigged out and went for suicide, a number of which were successful. There's a lot for the scum who benefited from the covid scheme to answer for.
 
 

20 posted on 10/29/2023 11:47:31 AM PDT by lapsus calami (What's that stink? Code Pink ! ! And their buddy Murtha, too!)
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