Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 29 October 2023

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Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord; Giving thanks always for all things unto God and the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ;
Ephesians 5:19-20 (King James Version)

God is in control, and he showed his miraculous hand by changing the Speakership to a Pro-Life Louisiana Christian from a California secular humanist who was owned by the lobbyists. Huge congratulations to Rep Matt Gaetz and his seven allies who voted out Speaker McCarthy and of most unlikely people but now Speaker Mike Johnson who you may not have a less connected Representative in Congress and has heavy oil production connections.

All the Beltway experts said it was a reckless stunt which would lead to chaos and failure. Now they are complaining about there are no good results when getting rid of a play-along to get along politician is not a good start. There really could not be a better choice than Mike Johnson for the Trump MAGA crowd. As a nobody he has not had a chance to be bought by the K-Street corruption and pray he does not.

To all of those who called and sent emails or went into the office of Lori Chevez-DeRemer deserve a certain amount of credit as she became one of the key vote changes to give Mike Johnson a unanimous vote. Make sure to call her offices and thank her for her vote for the people. Hopefully this is the first of many hard votes she will be making in the future as this nomination exposed more of the swamp than anyone knew of before.

Give your congressman’s office a call thanking him for her conscious vote to put a real conservative in the Speakership.

If you said the House would change from CA Nancy Pelosi to be replaced by LA Mike Johnson, they would have come for you in the rubber truck and straight jacket. You went from someone who was a rabid abortionist to a pro-life from conception free thinking man from Shreveport who is solidly MAGA. This is a Yuge win for President Trump who Johnson defended from impeachment twice even though Nancy forced him to play by Kangaroo Court rules.

His strongest suit is his support of the oil industry as Louisiana is the second leading state for oil production from the Gulf of Mexico. This is the foundation of the economy and why Barak/Biden has caused an economic trainwreck of Biblical proportions. The doubling and tripling of gas and petroleum products has been a major factor in the increase of inflation along with doubling and tripling your traveling costs.

The inflation and increased travel has destroyed profit margins for large and small companies across the country and multiplied the bankruptcies across the country. One of the most effective ways to strengthen the economy would be to increase petroleum production and lower the cost of gas from $5/gal and move them back down to the $2 neighborhood. His connections with the petroleum industry can be a major contribution to the slowing of the economic disaster setting up Trump for another boom economy.

Is it possible, perhaps not but nobody would have predicted the nomination and election of a solid conservative nobody knew the name of 48 hours ago. God works in mysterious ways and here is another example of his hand still on his country who still says it is a Godly country even though half the country has turned their backs on him. This is another example of God choosing the last person man would choose to do his work. Another unexpected victory for God.

Pray for Revival

Note: The above opinion is not necessarily my own, but FReeper Bray’s. If you wish to discuss this, please ping Bray.

Johnson looks like an excellent pick.We will have to wait and see how his reign rolls out. But, anticipation from those who know him including the real potus, President Trump, seem excellent.

Meanwhile president Trump takes on the depths of depravity of corrupt dems with his lawsuits all going away. Seems all the dems know to do is lie their asses off and sooner or later they get caught.

DJT is also rightly alarmed at the open borders with millions of terrorist looking young men crossing our side open border to do who knows what, when, or where.

Let's hope we don't get an episode like Israel just had with the intel group claiming they missed one.Yeah right,both cia and mossad didnt know it was coming,not likely!!

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/warnings-about-alarming-pre-oct-7-hamas-activity-ignored-say-israeli-surveillance

We don't need an attack on US soil but with millions of illegals in the country,who knows.

Worst of all we can't count on the media to even report it if it does happen!

Seems there were some 100 attacks on US properties or bases over seas that all went basically unanswered before we even found out about it.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/us-concerned-about-new-attacks-risk-on-military-bases-white-house/ar-AA1iOGLP

We live in trying times.

Hiya, AB!

The Middle East is a hot zone and Anti-Semites are protesting by the tens of thousands world-wide.

Arnold Schwarzenegger is pimping his book on MTP.

ABC could not score an interview with the new Speaker of the House, so they sent reporter Mireya Villarreal to talk to Mike Johnson's neighbors in Louisiana.

And Turkey’s Erdogan is threatening Israel.

And where’s Joe? Shouldn’t the American President be telling Erdogan to knock it off?

Where is the strong arm of America as we slip into world war?

Having a pudding cup and smelling that nice nurse’s hair....

Hiya, rodguy!

Agree, Mike Johnson looks to be a legendary Speaker of the House.

The Israeli intelligence failure resulting in the October 7 massacres is mind boggling. Let us hope it is not a direct result of the U.S. Iran spy ring operating at the highest levels of our federal government. Traitorous weasel Robert Malley still walks free, and Ariane Tabatabai still holds her security clearance and is reportedly assigned to U.S. hostage negotiations. She maintains her position as Pentagon’s chief of staff for the Assistant Secretary of Defense for Special Operations.

Iranian influence cell breached top level of Biden administration

Ted Cruz warns of alleged ‘Iranian spies’ in Biden admin: ‘One of the greatest national security scandals’

Robert Malley has long-standing connections with John Kerry, and he was high school buddies with Antony Blinken.

John F'n Kerry and Traitorous Weasel Robert Malley

Erdogan is a buttinski who should be sanctioned by all of the alphabet multi-national orgs.

Slow Joe is MIA, per usual. Maybe it is for the best.

and in London yesterday, protests and riots by Muslims and useful idiots of the Left:

The United Kingdom has reached critical mass. They are becoming a Muslim State, along with France. Germany and Italy may yet follow.

Meanwhile, I read a report right here on Free Republic that said 10 million illegals have entered the United States since Biden took over.

10 Million in 3 years, and only a portion were from Latin American countries!

https://www.thecentersquare.com/national/article_9d841124-7449-11ee-af4a-af115ad29337.html

Illegal border crossers total over 10 million since Biden inauguration
—Total is greater than the individual populations of 41 states
——By Bethany Blankley | The Center Square contributor Oct 27, 2023

Malley has been making all kinds of news as to what a terrible pick he is for anything, typical of obama's third term where everything is designed to destroy the country.

On the Israeli intel,it was never lacking according to those on the scene:

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/warnings-about-alarming-pre-oct-7-hamas-activity-ignored-say-israeli-surveillance

I have done a piece on it here:

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4191399/posts?q=1&;page=1651

it's at 1662

to: numberonepal; rodguy911; Bob Ireland; All; kabar; Alas Babylon!

Here it is the one we can't ignore!

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Warnings About Alarming Pre-Oct 7 Hamas Activity Ignored, Say Israeli Surveillance Soldiers

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/warnings-about-alarming-pre-oct-7-hamas-activity-ignored-say-israeli-surveillance

This from ZH when you stop and think about it the why part has to be resolved.

Below is a clip from the ZH piece:

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The Oct 7 Hamas military and terrorist attacks on Israel came as shock to many -- but not to surveillance soldiers of the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) who say their warnings about their alarming observations along the Gaza border were ignored by higher-ups.

Two other IDF intelligence soldiers shared similar experiences with Israel's Channel 12. “We sat on shifts and saw the convoy of vans. We saw the training, people shooting and rolling, practicing taking over a tank.

The training went from once a week to twice a week, from every day to several times a day,” said Amit Yerushalmi. “We saw patrols along the border, people with cameras and binoculars. It happened 300 meters from the fence. There were a lot of disturbances, people went down to the fence and detonated an outrageous amount of explosives, the amount of explosives was crazy.< p> ” Yerushalmi said she dutifully recorded all her observations, with no apparent impact on the command whatsoever. These four IDF soldiers aren't the only ones who say their warnings were ignored.

Egyptian intelligence officials say they also attempted to alert Tel Aviv. “We have warned them an explosion of the situation is coming, and very soon, and it would be big. But they underestimated such warnings,” an anonymous Egyptian official told the Associated Press.

End clip:

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Sadly,it's now clear that both the Mossad,Cia and how many others we will never know ignored numerous warnings an attack was imminent. The head leaders of Israel including Netanyahu had to have known long in advance that the attack was coming.

We have heard the excuses for supposed intelligence failures. That was never the case. Those failures were used as excuses on the right and the left. They just had too much on their plate,they can't get them all right,it was more than they expected,on and on and on the excuses come but its all bullshit.

Truth is the decision makers let it happen on purpose. It's likely more than just Israel as well decided to let IDF forces,concert goers,innocent citizens take a huge hit from the worst terrorists on earth. I won't go into detail what they did we all know it.

What we need to do now is analyze the bigger question. Why did the Israeli govt. let it all happen since its now clear they they did let it happen. But why?

1. Was it in collusion with the US and others that hamas had to be destroyed and there had to be massive casualties taken by Israel for a strong enough response? Which means the Israeli govt. was willing to sacrifice countless citizens in order to clean out hamas once and for all.

2. Was it clear that WWIII had already begun and we,the U.S., had to get in a little at a time never admitting we had already been hit some 100 times in the mideast without ever a meaningful response?

3.Were bigger and badder powers calling the shots demanding to let the slaughter happen and the ensuing response which could easily wind up as WWIII?

It's near impossible to know why the Israeli govt. let the attack happen. But what is very clear now is that they did get the warnings from multiple sources weeks if not months before the attack happened and did nothing to stop it until hamas terrorists were already killing innocents.

We need to find out why it was allowed to happen so when it happens again in other areas of the world we will have a better idea of what is going on.

1,662 posted on 10/28/2023, 9:34:04 PM by rodguy911 (HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE!! ITS ALL A CONSPIRACY: UNTIL ITS NOT)

Now listening to Larry Carlton smiles and smiles to go (used to be an intro for one of my radio shows,sure do miss it)

https://www.bing.com/search?q=smiles+and+smiles+to+go+larry+carlton&PC=U316&FORM=CHROMN

SUNDAY MORNING FUTURES - House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.); Rep. Byron Donalds (R-Fla.); Gov. Glenn Youngkin (R-Va.); Jared Kushner, former White House senior adviser and George Washington law professor Jonathan Turley.
1. Who is Mikey Johnson? we will soon find out - WHERE ARE THE J6 tapes?
2. Houston city elections - Early voting - week 1 - a miserable 85,000+ votes cast so far.

Why did the Israeli govt. let it all happen since its now clear they they did let it happen.

Say what?

Nah, it's not "clear"... just nah. The only ones that "let" it happen where the Hamas terrorists.

Israel screwed up, absolutely, but they did not let this happen deliberately. The women you are quoting is a big Netanyahu opponent, and is using the Israeli horrible (and it is) lack of vigilance to smear her political opponents further, but it isn't true.

And Turkey’s Erdogan is threatening Israel.

It plays well domestically.

Turkey’s Erdogan tells pro-Palestinian rally Israel is ‘an occupier’-- Addressing hundreds of thousands of supporters, Erdogan accuses the West of being the main culprit in the war on Gaza.

He's far worse than that. Along with his son bilal they are running game after game all over the Mideast. Killing stealing and doing what high ranking arab terrorists do. He and his son are two of the worst.

https://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article43545.htm

Meet The Man Who Funds ISIS: Bilal Erdogan, The Son Of Turkey's President By Tyler Durden(durden is Zero Hedge)

November 26, 2015 "Information Clearing House" - "Zero Hedge" - Russia's Sergey Lavrov is not one foreign minister known to mince his words. Just earlier today, 24 hours after a Russian plane was brought down by the country whose president three years ago said "a short-term border violation can never be a pretext for an attack", had this to say: "We have serious doubts this was an unintended incident and believe this is a planned provocation" by Turkey.

But even that was tame compared to what Lavrov said to his Turkish counterparts Mevlut Cavusoglu earlier today during a phone call between the two (Lavrov who was supposed to travel to Turkey has since canceled such plans).

As Sputnik transcribes, according to a press release from Russia's Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Lavrov pointed out that, "by shooting down a Russian plane on a counter-terrorist mission of the Russian Aerospace Force in Syria, and one that did not violate Turkey's airspace, the Turkish government has in effect sided with ISIS."

It was in this context when Lavrov added that "Turkey's actions appear premeditated, planned, and undertaken with a specific objective."

More importantly, Lavrov pointed to Turkey's role in the propping up the terror network through the oil trade. Per the Russian statement:

"The Russian Minister reminded his counterpart about Turkey's involvement in the ISIS’ illegal trade in oil, which is transported via the area where the Russian plane was shot down, and about the terrorist infrastructure, arms and munitions depots and control centers that are also located there."

Others reaffirmed Lavrov's stance, such as retired French General Dominique Trinquand, who said that "Turkey is either not fighting ISIL at all or very little, and does not interfere with different types of smuggling that takes place on its border, be it oil, phosphate, cotton or people," he said.

The reason we find this line of questioning fascinating is that just last week in the aftermath of the French terror attack but long before the Turkish downing of the Russian jet, we wrote about "The Most Important Question About ISIS That Nobody Is Asking" in which we asked who is the one "breaching every known law of funding terrorism when buying ISIS crude, almost certainly with the tacit approval by various "western alliance" governments, and why is it that these governments have allowed said middleman to continue funding ISIS for as long as it has?"

Precisely one week later, in even more tragic circumstances, suddenly everyone is asking this question.

And while we patiently dig to find who the on and offshore "commodity trading" middleman are, who carts away ISIS oil to European and other international markets in exchange for hundreds of millions of dollars, one name keeps popping up as the primary culprit of regional demand for the Islamic State's "terrorist oil" - that of Turkish president Recep Erdogan's son: Bilal Erdogan.

His very brief bio:

Necmettin Bilal Erdogan, commonly known as Bilal Erdogan (born 23 April 1980) is the third child of Recep Tayyip Erdo?an, the current President of Turkey.

After graduating from Kartal Imam Hatip High School in 1999, Bilal Erdogan moved to the US for undergraduate education. He also earned a Masters Degree in John F. Kennedy School of Government at Harvard University in 2004. After graduation, he served in the World Bank as intern for a while. He returned Turkey in 2006 and started to his business life. Bilal Erdogan is one of the three equal shareholders of "BMZ Group Denizcilik ", a marine transportation corporation.

Here is a recent picture of Bilal, shown in a photo from a Turkish 2014 article, which "asked why his ships are now in Syria":

In the next few days, we will present a full breakdown of Bilal's various business ventures, starting with his BMZ Group which is the name implicated most often in the smuggling of illegal Iraqi and Islamic State through to the western supply chain, but for now here is a brief, if very disturbing snapshot, of both father and son Erdogan by F. William Engdahl, one which should make everyone ask whether the son of Turkey's president (and thus, the father) is the silent mastermind who has been responsible for converting millions of barrels of Syrian Oil into hundreds of millions of dollars of Islamic State revenue.

By F. William Engdahl, posted originally in New Eastern Outlook:

Erdogan's Dirth Dangerous ISIS Games More and more details are coming to light revealing that the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria, variously known as ISIS, IS or Daesh, is being fed and kept alive by Recep Tayyip Erdogan, the Turkish President and by his Turkish intelligence service, including MIT, the Turkish CIA. Turkey, as a result of Erdogan’s pursuit of what some call a Neo-Ottoman Empire fantasies that stretch all the way to China, Syria and Iraq, threatens not only to destroy Turkey but much of the Middle East if he continues on his present path.

In October 2014 US Vice President Joe Biden told a Harvard gathering that Erdogan’s regime was backing ISIS with “hundreds of millions of dollars and thousands of tons of weapons…” Biden later apologized clearly for tactical reasons to get Erdo?an’s permission to use Turkey's Incirlik Air Base for airstrikes against ISIS in Syria, but the dimensions of Erdogan’s backing for ISIS since revealed is far, far more than Biden hinted.

ISIS militants were trained by US, Israeli and now it emerges, by Turkish special forces at secret bases in Konya Province inside the Turkish border to Syria, over the past three years. Erdo?an’s involvement in ISIS goes much deeper. At a time when Washington, Saudi Arabia and even Qatar appear to have cut off their support for ISIS, they remaining amazingly durable. The reason appears to be the scale of the backing from Erdo?an and his fellow neo-Ottoman Sunni Islam Prime Minister, Ahmet Davuto?lu.

Nice Family Business

The prime source of money feeding ISIS these days is sale of Iraqi oil from the Mosul region oilfields where they maintain a stronghold. The son of Erdogan it seems is the man who makes the export sales of ISIS-controlled oil possible.

Bilal Erdo?an owns several maritime companies. He has allegedly signed contracts with European operating companies to carry Iraqi stolen oil to different Asian countries. The Turkish government buys Iraqi plundered oil which is being produced from the Iraqi seized oil wells. Bilal Erdogan’s maritime companies own special wharfs in Beirut and Ceyhan ports that are transporting ISIS’ smuggled crude oil in Japan-bound oil tankers.

Gürsel Tekin vice-president of the Turkish Republican Peoples’ Party, CHP, declared in a recent Turkish media interview, “President Erdogan claims that according to international transportation conventions there is no legal infraction concerning Bilal’s illicit activities and his son is doing an ordinary business with the registered Japanese companies, but in fact Bilal Erdo?an is up to his neck in complicity with terrorism, but as long as his father holds office he will be immune from any judicial prosecution.” Tekin adds that Bilal’s maritime company doing the oil trades for ISIS, BMZ Ltd, is “a family business and president Erdogan’s close relatives hold shares in BMZ and they misused public funds and took illicit loans from Turkish banks.”

In addition to son Bilal’s illegal and lucrative oil trading for ISIS, Sümeyye Erdogan, the daughter of the Turkish President apparently runs a secret hospital camp inside Turkey just over the Syrian border where Turkish army trucks daily being in scores of wounded ISIS Jihadists to be patched up and sent back to wage the bloody Jihad in Syria, according to the testimony of a nurse who was recruited to work there until it was discovered she was a member of the Alawite branch of Islam, the same as Syrian President Bashar al-Assad who Erdogan seems hell-bent on toppling.

Turkish citizen Ramazan Bagol, captured this month by Kurdish People's Defence Units,YPG, as he attempted to join ISIS from Konya province, told his captors that said he was sent to ISIS by the ‘Ismailia Sect,’ a strict Turkish Islam sect reported to be tied to Recep Erdogan. Baol said the sect recruits members and provides logistic support to the radical Islamist organization. He added that the Sect gives jihad training in neighborhoods of Konya and sends those trained here to join ISIS gangs in Syria.

According to French geopolitical analyst, Thierry Meyssan, Recep Erdogan “organised the pillage of Syria, dismantled all the factories in Aleppo, the economic capital, and stole the machine-tools. Similarly, he organized the theft of archaeological treasures and set up an international market in Antioch…with the help of General Benoît Puga, Chief of Staff for the Elysée, he organized a false-flag operation intended to provoke the launching of a war by the Atlantic Alliance – the chemical bombing of la Ghoutta in Damascus, in August 2013. “

Meyssan claims that the Syria strategy of Erdogan was initially secretly developed in coordination with former French Foreign Minister Alain Juppé and Erdogan’s then Foreign Minister Ahmet Davuto?lu, in 2011, after Juppe won a hesitant Erdogan to the idea of supporting the attack on traditional Turkish ally Syria in return for a promise of French support for Turkish membership in the EU. France later backed out, leaving Erdogan to continue the Syrian bloodbath largely on his own using ISIS.

Gen. John R. Allen, an opponent of Obama's Iran peace strategy, now US diplomatic envoy coordinating the coalition against the Islamic State, exceeded his authorized role after meeting with Erdogan and “promised to create a "no-fly zone" ninety miles wide, over Syrian territory, along the whole border with Turkey, supposedly intended to help Syrian refugees fleeing from their government, but in reality to apply the "Juppé-Wright plan". The Turkish Prime Minister,

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GUESS WHAT THE PIECE I JUST POSTED ON BILAL ERDOGAN HAS JUST DISAPPEARED FROM THE WEB.LET ME KNOW IF ANYONE HERE CAN FIND IT!

General Milly bragged he warned the Chinese. Thirty years ago he would have been axed two questions:
Cigarette?
Blindfold?