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Here Are Obama's 'Thoughts on Israel and Hamas.' Just Wait Until You Get to the End
Townhall ^ | 10/23/2023 | Matt Vespa

Posted on 10/23/2023 8:43:50 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

You can decide and debate this in the comments section below. Former President Barack Obama has another lengthy post about his “thoughts” on the Israel-Hamas war. It’s a tortured thought exercise that will inevitably leave all parties dissatisfied. Obama voices his support for Israel, the safety of its people, and its right to exist, which is anathema to the legions of far-left, pro-Hamas supporters we’ve seen come out of the bushes in the past two weeks. These folks weren’t clamoring for a two-state solution; they wanted Israel destroyed, along with its people.

On the flip side, Obama insinuates that Israeli forces might be induced to commit war crimes with their pending ground invasion of Gaza following Hamas’ vicious and genocidal terrorist attack on October 7. Obama goes to great lengths to be fair in this post, which only helps Hamas. Civilian casualties should be minimized and avoided, but it's a tragic part of war. People are going to die, lots of them.

With a terrorist organization like Hamas, their life’s blood, as with any insurgency, is with the people who support them. They may get training and arms from Iran, but the endorsement of their agenda from the civilian population is the actual base of support. They have terror tunnels intentionally built over civilian structures—this isn’t some happenstance. The people of Gaza gave their blessing when this terrorist infrastructure was being built, just as they gave Hamas their endorsement when they voted them into power in 2006. The terror group then seized the Gaza Strip by force in 2007.

So, excuse me, while I don’t want to hear the side that only shields this terrorist organization under the veneer of human rights and humanitarian aid. Any measure that prevents Hamas’ eradication is a pro-terrorist position.

And to cap it all off, of course, Obama, being the professor who must always lecture, has a reading list at the end of this post, one being from his Iran Deal gaslighting operative Ben Rhodes: 

also a NYT article over the weekend: "‘I Love You. I Am Sorry’: One Jew, One Muslim and a Friendship Tested by War"

all told, it's the kind of reading list that would infuriate those advocating for Israel to deter Hamas terrorism w/ a strong responsehttps://t.co/M0GhDboVr4— Josh Kraushaar (@JoshKraushaar) October 23, 2023


It’s been 17 days since Hamas launched its horrific attack against Israel, killing over 1,400 Israeli citizens, including defenseless women, children and the elderly. In the aftermath of such unspeakable brutality, the U.S. government and the American people have shared in the grief of families, prayed for the return of loved ones, and rightly declared solidarity with the Israeli people. 

As I stated in an earlier post, Israel has a right to defend its citizens against such wanton violence, and I fully support President Biden’s call for the United States to support our long-time ally in going after Hamas, dismantling its military capabilities, and facilitating the safe return of hundreds of hostages to their families. 

But even as we support Israel, we should also be clear that how Israel prosecutes this fight against Hamas matters. In particular, it matters — as President Biden has repeatedly emphasized — that Israel’s military strategy abides by international law, including those laws that seek to avoid, to every extent possible, the death or suffering of civilian populations. Upholding these values is important for its own sake — because it is morally just and reflects our belief in the inherent value of every human life. Upholding these values is also vital for building alliances and shaping international opinion — all of which are critical for Israel’s long-term security. 

This is an enormously difficult task. War is always tragic, and even the most carefully planned military operations often put civilians at risk. As President Biden noted during his recent visit to Israel, America itself has at times fallen short of our higher values when engaged in war, and in the aftermath of 9/11, the U.S. government wasn’t interested in heeding the advice of even our allies when it came to the steps we took to protect ourselves against Al Qaeda. Now, after the systematic massacre of Israeli citizens, a massacre that evokes some of the darkest memories of persecution against the Jewish people, it’s understandable that many Israelis have demanded that their government do whatever it takes to root out Hamas and make sure such attacks never happen again. Moreover, Hamas’ military operations are deeply embedded within Gaza — and its leadership seems to intentionally hide among civilians, thereby endangering the very people they claim to represent. 

Still, the world is watching closely as events in the region unfold, and any Israeli military strategy that ignores the human costs could ultimately backfire. Already, thousands of Palestinians have been killed in the bombing of Gaza, many of them children. Hundreds of thousands have been forced from their homes. The Israeli government’s decision to cut off food, water and electricity to a captive civilian population threatens not only to worsen a growing humanitarian crisis; it could further harden Palestinian attitudes for generations, erode global support for Israel, play into the hands of Israel’s enemies, and undermine long term efforts to achieve peace and stability in the region. 

It’s therefore important that those of us supporting Israel in its time of need encourage a strategy that can incapacitate Hamas while minimizing further civilian casualties. Israel’s recent shift to allow relief trucks into Gaza, prompted in part by the Biden administration’s behind-the-scenes diplomacy, is an encouraging step, but we need to continue to lead the international community in accelerating critical aid and supplies to an increasingly desperate Gaza population. And while the prospects of future peace may seem more distant than ever, we should call on all of the key actors in the region to engage with those Palestinian leaders and organizations that recognize Israel’s right to exist to begin articulating a viable pathway for Palestinians to achieve their legitimate aspirations for self-determination — because that is the best and perhaps only way to achieve the lasting peace and security most Israeli and Palestinian families yearn for. 

Finally, in dealing with what is an extraordinarily complex situation where so many people are in pain and passions are understandably running high, all of us need to do our best to put our best values, rather than our worst fears, on display. 

That means actively opposing anti-semitism in all its forms, everywhere. It means rejecting efforts to minimize the terrible tragedy that the Israeli people have just endured, as well as the morally-bankrupt suggestion that any cause can somehow justify the deliberate slaughter of innocent people. 

It means rejecting anti-Muslim, anti-Arab or anti-Palestinian sentiment. It means refusing to lump all Palestinians with Hamas or other terrorist groups. It means guarding against dehumanizing language towards the people of Gaza, or downplaying Palestinian suffering — whether in Gaza or the West Bank — as irrelevant or illegitimate. 

It means recognizing that Israel has every right to exist; that the Jewish people have claim to a secure homeland where they have ancient historical roots; and that there have been instances in which previous Israeli governments made meaningful efforts to resolve the dispute and provide a path for a two-state solution — efforts that were ultimately rebuffed by the other side. 

It means acknowledging that Palestinians have also lived in disputed territories for generations; that many of them were not only displaced when Israel was formed but continue to be forcibly displaced by a settler movement that too often has received tacit or explicit support from the Israeli government; that Palestinian leaders who’ve been willing to make concessions for a two-state solution have too often had little to show for their efforts; and that it is possible for people of good will to champion Palestinian rights and oppose certain Israeli government policies in the West Bank and Gaza without being anti-semitic. 

Perhaps most of all, it means we should choose not to always assume the worst in those with whom we disagree. In an age of constant rancor, trolling and misinformation on social media, at a time when so many politicians and attention seekers see an advantage in shedding heat rather than light, it may be unrealistic to expect respectful dialogue on any issue — much less on an issue with such high stakes and after so much blood has been spilled. But if we care about keeping open the possibility of peace, security and dignity for future generations of Israeli and Palestinian children — as well as for our own children — then it falls upon all of us to at least make the effort to model, in our own words and actions, the kind of world we want them to inherit. 

Here are links to some useful perspectives and background on the conflict: 

●Israel Is About to Make a Terrible Mistake by Thomas L. Friedman 

● ‘I Love You. I Am Sorry’: One Jew, One Muslim and a Friendship Tested by War by Kurt Streeter

● A Timeline of Israel and Palestine’s Complicated History by Nicole Narea 

● Gaza: The Cost of Escalation by Ben Rhodes

You can see why Netanyahu never trusted this guy. Israel doesn’t target civilians; Hamas does. Israel has warned civilians for days to vacate areas that will become war zones. And for all the Arab nations’ support for Palestinians, none of them want these people around either. We might as well have Hamas propaganda on this list, which The New York Times ran with over the Gaza hospital story, which was fake news.



TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Iran; Israel; News/Current Events; Syria; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: gaza; hamas; iran; israel; obama; syria; waronterror
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1 posted on 10/23/2023 8:43:50 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Didn’t read it but... “good people on both sides”?


2 posted on 10/23/2023 8:45:49 PM PDT by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m not reading a bunch of pig slop from Osama


3 posted on 10/23/2023 8:58:53 PM PDT by NWFree (Sigma male 🤪)
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To: SeekAndFind

4 posted on 10/23/2023 9:00:10 PM PDT by TigersEye (Our Republic is under seige by globalist Marxists. Hold fast!)
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To: SeekAndFind

This is the same kind of bullshi@ that Nazi apologists used. The Germans hard done by Versailles Treaty,etc etc


5 posted on 10/23/2023 9:05:12 PM PDT by Long Jon No Silver (Rrily)
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To: SeekAndFind

obama has no idea how to construct a rational thought. That’s why his ramblings go on and on.


6 posted on 10/23/2023 9:08:23 PM PDT by HIDEK6 (God bless Donald Trump. )
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To: Long Jon No Silver

Obafuhrer makes tries to come across as all professorial and patrician, but really he is just an unrepentant antisemite and Islamist ass kisser


7 posted on 10/23/2023 9:09:33 PM PDT by Long Jon No Silver (Rrily)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Moron” the Irish guys comments here. You know, o’bamski:

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4191822/posts

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8 posted on 10/23/2023 9:09:42 PM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this💩? 🚫💉! 🇮🇱👍!)
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To: TigersEye
Oh, and in addition ...

... although truth isn't really slander.

9 posted on 10/23/2023 9:16:55 PM PDT by TigersEye (Our Republic is under seige by globalist Marxists. Hold fast!)
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To: NWFree
I’m not reading a bunch of pig slop from Osama

Amen bro.

10 posted on 10/23/2023 9:18:26 PM PDT by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of USAF Captain & pilot. Both bitten by the aviation bug)
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To: SeekAndFind

Self defense is a war crime.


11 posted on 10/23/2023 9:21:23 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: SeekAndFind

I care more about the thoughts of a house fly than that man.


12 posted on 10/23/2023 9:24:40 PM PDT by FrankRizzo890
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To: SeekAndFind

“I support Israel but I also support those that want to kill them down to the last man, woman, and child”, is basically what he is saying.


13 posted on 10/23/2023 9:41:30 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: SeekAndFind

Obama did not write that, its not his writing style.


14 posted on 10/23/2023 10:03:22 PM PDT by rdcbn1
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To: TigersEye

There aren’t any Muslims in Star Trek..


15 posted on 10/23/2023 10:27:42 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: SeekAndFind

obama is a terrorist supporter. He and Biden are trying to get Iran nuclear weapons to destroy Israel and attack the USA. If that happens then obama would STILL blame Israel and the USA just as Bill Clinton blamed the United States 2 weeks after 9/11.

To not be able to condemn what the terrorists have done or to even call them terrorists is beyond comprehension.
The democrats have seen the photos of what was done to all those killed yet still support the terrorists.


16 posted on 10/23/2023 10:53:45 PM PDT by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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To: NWFree; Mark17

We all know that this clown always has an agenda and it’s never a good agenda at that.


17 posted on 10/23/2023 10:57:33 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: pgyanke

?Naw, this time he takes a decisive side and isn’t a mush mouthed fence sitter..

Psych


18 posted on 10/23/2023 11:04:47 PM PDT by Paul5
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To: SeekAndFind

No thanks. Not interested in an antisemitic America-hating commie criminal’s rants.


19 posted on 10/24/2023 12:09:53 AM PDT by EinNYC
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To: SaveFerris
We all know that this clown always has an agenda and it’s never a good agenda at that.

Obama has the advantage of having read and been taught from true translations of the Holy Quran.

Few westerners have as in the last few decades the translations sold in the west have been radically altered to make Islam appear to be a "religion of peace"

Here is the truth, for free:

https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/16955

This is a link to a free book on Gutenberg.org, three translations by 3 Imams of the Holy Quran side by side.
20 posted on 10/24/2023 3:14:07 AM PDT by Mogger
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