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House speaker fight: The real reason why Kevin McCarthy still hasn't been replaced.
Fox News ^ | 10.22.2023 | Christopher Bedford

Posted on 10/22/2023 7:06:21 AM PDT by Carriage Hill

Republican infighting in the House of Representatives since the ouster of Speaker Kevin McCarthy two weeks ago isn't so much creating dysfunction as it is exposing dysfunction. Over the past 10 months, strange coalitions have been built and dispersed, candidates have risen and fallen, and private animosities have burst into public view. While the D.C. legacy media press has proven itself incapable of explaining any of the above (see: its description for the "hard right coalition" of Reps. Matt Gaetz, Nancy Mace and Ken Buck), the squabbling has clarified just how cracked up the Republican Party truly is.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: clowns; clownshow; enjoytrheshow; gopeclowns; house; housespeaker; idiots; learntopost; speaker
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To: Carriage Hill

I love the dysfunction that has been exposed and shows the need for revolutionary change.

Enough trying to pretend like we are voting to ‘conserve’ anything.
It’s not working.

Let it all rot until the real revolt begins.


41 posted on 10/22/2023 8:37:29 AM PDT by right way right (May we remain sober over mere men, for God really is our only true hope. )
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Brought to you by Geatz the snake in the grass.”

Gaetz is a hero. Kevin was exposed as cuck collaborator. Hakeem will not be speaker.


42 posted on 10/22/2023 8:47:06 AM PDT by gibsonguy ( )
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To: Carriage Hill
The initial Jordan vote was revealing: all the die-hard opposition came from RINOs on the appropriations and defense committees, almost all of whom had voted themselves earmarks.

They've become addicted to the out of control deficit spending and opportunity for kickbacks and retiring "upwards" into multi-million dollar K-Street sinecures.

43 posted on 10/22/2023 8:50:53 AM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: ClearCase_guy

Agree. To those who call us naive and political morons for saying so and a guarantee that such a move would advance democrat rule, I say “so what”? How would that be different than what the GOPe gives us today?

And to those who disagree, please enlighten us as to the value of today’s Republican party. How exactly is the country better off because it exists? And please, give some fact-based anwers, not more of your ad-hominem attacks based on your opinion.


44 posted on 10/22/2023 8:56:07 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: All

A point about the evil that Matt Gaetz did.

If the conference wanted McCarthy, they could have all voted for him in these various votes since his removal.

It didn’t happen. Whether he wanted the job or not. In fact, in each round of voting, he’s gotten a few votes. Why didn’t he get 200+?

Because the conference didn’t want him. So Gaetz did nothing wrong.

No, there doesn’t have to be an alternative. The world hasn’t ended because there is no Speaker.


45 posted on 10/22/2023 9:01:35 AM PDT by Owen (.)
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To: Carriage Hill

The republican party has been infiltrated. Dis-function is the step before being turned completely evil.


46 posted on 10/22/2023 9:01:48 AM PDT by Revel
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To: gibsonguy

Bttt


47 posted on 10/22/2023 9:18:04 AM PDT by wardaddy (Civilization cannot tolerate what the world is becoming )
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To: MinorityRepublican
He gambled that the Democrats wouldn't vote to remove him even though he did everything they asked him to do. They don't care anyway.

Democrats do not want the Republicans and they do not need the Republicans any longer to keep up the pretense of "Our Democracy"(tm). For that matter, the show is in its' last season. It is about to be cancelled and replaced by a new "reality" show. I hear it is provisionally called "World War 3".

Republicans are too stupid to notice the change. They still believe they can keep their phony baloney jobs.

The "rules" are shifting underneath all our feet.

48 posted on 10/22/2023 9:20:20 AM PDT by flamberge (We are living in "interesting times".)
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To: Observator
There will be a MAGA party and the Republican party will be a hollow shell.

I like your way of thinking. This needs to happen soon.

49 posted on 10/22/2023 9:20:23 AM PDT by Conservative independent (When you rob Peter to pay Paul, you’ll always get Paul’s vote.)
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To: Carriage Hill

HAVE HOUSE MEMBERS FINALLY REALIZED THE PATH OF SUCCESSION IF SOMETHING HAPPENS TO PRES & VP???


50 posted on 10/22/2023 9:20:29 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: avital2
Nancy Mace is not hard right. she’ll regret this misstep.

Agreed. Bigly.
51 posted on 10/22/2023 9:22:17 AM PDT by Tommy Revolts
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To: Carriage Hill

Fox News lying again. The deep state does not want republicans to have power to stop the multi trillion dollar money laundering system. They want to stop the impeachment and the exposing of deep state traitors.


52 posted on 10/22/2023 9:26:27 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well those that did not make it back.)
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To: Yogafist
Re your #22: Well said. If you're going to fight, fight to win. The RINOs expect everyone to have a price. The 'geniuses' on the 'news' keep blaming the 8 for causing this and calling them traitors, but the fact is these 8 had the courage to drag the real traitors out into the light.

Here are the Republicans who voted against Jordan in the third speaker ballot:

Rep. Don Bacon, of Nebraska, voted for Speaker Pro Tempore Patrick McHenry, of North Carolina.
Rep. Vern Buchanan, of Florida, voted for Rep. Byron Donalds, of Florida.
Rep. Ken Buck, of Colorado, voted for Rep. Tom Emmer, of Minnesota.
Rep. Lori Chavez-DeRamer, voted for McHenry.
Rep. Anthony D'Esposito, of New York, voted for former Rep. Lee Zeldin.
Rep. Mario Diaz-Balart, of Florida, voted for Rep. Steve Scalise, of Louisiana.
Rep. Jake Ellzey, of Texas, voted for Rep. Mike Garcia, of California.
Rep. Drew Ferguson, of Georgia, voted for Scalise.
Rep. Brian Fitzpatrick, of Pennsylvania, voted for McHenry.
Rep. Andrew Garbarino, of New York, voted for Zeldin.
Rep. Carlos Giménez, of Florida, voted for Rep. Kevin McCarthy, of California.
Rep. Tony Gonzales, of Texas, voted for Scalise.
Rep. Kay Granger, of Texas, voted for Scalise.
Rep. John James, of Michigan, voted for Donalds.
Rep. Thomas Kean, of New Jersey, voted for McCarthy.
Rep. Mike Kelly, of California, voted for Scalise.
Rep. Jennifer Kiggans, of Virginia, voted for McHenry.
Rep. Nick LaLota, of New York, voted for Zeldin.
Rep. Michael Lawler, of New York, voted for McHenry.
Rep. Mariannette Miller-Meeks, of Iowa, voted for McHenry.
Rep. Marcus Molinaro, of New York, voted for Zeldin.
Rep. John Rutherford, of Florida, voted for Scalise.
Rep. Michael Simpson, of Idaho, voted for Scalise.
Rep. Pete Stauber, of Minnesota, voted for Rep. Bruce Westerman, of Arkansas.
Rep. Steve Womack, of Arkansas, voted for Scalise.
Rep. Derrick Van Orden, of New Jersey, was absent.

I can't vote for someone else (none are in my district), but I can continue to deny the GOP any donations.

53 posted on 10/22/2023 9:26:39 AM PDT by Semper Vigilantis (Evil is dropping it's cloak of disguise. Prepare for battle.)
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To: flamberge
Democrats do not want the Republicans and they do not need the Republicans any longer to keep up the pretense of "Our Democracy"(tm).

I think we're heading into an one party state. Biden in '24, Newsom in '28 and '32. Newsom will replace the Conservatives on the SCOTUS during his administration. And that'll be the end of the American Republic.

Likely the Second Amendment will be "grandfathered". They'll allow MAGA nation to own firearms for the time being. But they'll make it that it'll be difficult for Gen Z to own them. Just like that, you have a totalitarian nation.

54 posted on 10/22/2023 9:28:56 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: qaz123

Well said.


55 posted on 10/22/2023 9:33:39 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: Carriage Hill

If they change the voting rules that whoever gets the maximum votes on the floor becomes speaker then people like Gaetz will have no where to hide.

The current requirement of 217 votes is one of the main reason behind the stalemate in the process.


56 posted on 10/22/2023 9:34:23 AM PDT by GregH
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To: right way right

“Let it all rot until the real revolt begins.”

I’ve been waiting for it, for years.


57 posted on 10/22/2023 9:36:14 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: MinorityRepublican
Likely the Second Amendment will be "grandfathered". They'll allow MAGA nation to own firearms for the time being. But they'll make it that it'll be difficult for Gen Z to own them. Just like that, you have a totalitarian nation.

We'll be under totalitarian control sooner than that timeline. Even more than the impending confiscation, I'm worried about the robots. Think about it - within a decade or so the DS will be cranking out ED-209s that will be basically impervious to gunfire. And when they give you twenty seconds to comply most are going to drop the gun.
58 posted on 10/22/2023 9:36:25 AM PDT by Observator
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To: GregH

Where did the 217 come from, anyway? Did the House impose that on themselves?


59 posted on 10/22/2023 9:37:20 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: Observator

60 posted on 10/22/2023 9:39:02 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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