Fortress recalls 61,000 biometric gun safes that need a fingerprint to open after boy, 12, opened one, took weapon out and accidentally shot himself dead

Daily Mail ^ | 10/19/23 | Rachel Bowman

[moovova]

Are these things EMP-proof?

[Graybeard58]

Could there be two people with the same fingerprint?

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Identical twins. Same DNA too.

[CFW]

“The boy was 12 and should have been taught how to handle a firearm.”

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Isn’t that the truth! Children by that age have been slowly taught about all other types of equipment. The stove is hot is taught at a very early age and then gradually a child is taught to cook that pizza himself. By age 12 many children are taught how to operate a lawn mower and other tools. But if someone mentions teaching a child the safety rules and proper handling of a firearm, parents freak out.

There would be a lot less accidents if children were taught how to safely handle a gun.

[Pennsyltucky Boy]

This is one of the reasons I prefer mechanical locks on safes and gun vaults.

[chaosagent]

Could there be two people with the same fingerprint?

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Identical twins. Same DNA too.

Sorry, but neither of these are true.

[Secret Agent Man]

No.

But they could have enough similar biomarker patterns to fool the verification process. Depends how many unique points they look at.

[Secret Agent Man]

Oh the battery is drained and salted over,....no gun

[OldMissileer]

Are these things EMP-proof?

Awhile ago I was looking to purchase a safe, was at one of the major sporting goods stores and asked that very question. The salesman showed me the 250,000 volt rating and I laughed as since I am near Washington DC if anything happens we will get hit with pulses in the 500K range.

I bought a standard dial-type lock and am very happy.

[Myrddin]

I would never rely on a fingerprint reader for access to my firearms. The staff that issues CAC cards with the DEERS terminals took 45 minutes to get the 80% match required to reset the PIN on my card. I accidently locked it when having to shuffle 3 different PKI cards to get my work done. The reader software got confused and delivered 3 incorrect PINs to my CAC.

My preference is the 5 button safe with user settable combination. I can open mine reliably in the dark by feel alone.

[Myrddin]

Identical twins. Same DNA too.

I wouldn't count on it. Fingerprints "grow" in response to epigenetic inputs. Even identical twins can have variations in blood/nutrient/oxygen supplies that will have influence on the fingerprints.

[Do_Tar]

Wait a minute. You people still have fingerprints?

[Cen-Tejas]

My old fashion “combination dial” gun safe is so finnicky that, after a thousand times, I have to try real hard to get it to open.

A kid could NEVER open it.