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Nato vows to respond if Finland-Estonia gas pipeline damage is deliberate
https://www.theguardian.com ^ | 11 Oct 2023 | Jon Henley Europe correspondent

Posted on 10/15/2023 9:33:13 PM PDT by RomanSoldier19

Nato has promised a “determined” response if damage to an undersea gas pipeline between Finland and Estonia proves deliberate, as investigators said traces of an “external, mechanical force” had been found on the seabed.

Amid widespread media speculation about the likelihood of Russian sabotage, Risto Lohi of the Finnish national bureau of investigation told a press conference in Helsinki on Wednesday: “There is reason to suspect an external force … caused the damage.” The force, he added, “appears to have been mechanical, not an explosion”.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: finland; nato

1 posted on 10/15/2023 9:33:13 PM PDT by RomanSoldier19
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To: RomanSoldier19

Amid widespread media speculation about the likelihood of Russian sabotage, Risto Lohi of the Finnish national bureau of investigation told a press conference in Helsinki on Wednesday: “There is reason to suspect an external force … caused the damage.”
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Ah so, more of the tried and true, focus group tested (thanks Hillary) RUSSIA, RUSSIA, RUSSIA claim.


2 posted on 10/15/2023 9:40:19 PM PDT by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA. -PRO-MAX)
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To: RomanSoldier19
The Biden regime is effectively Obama's third term, bring with it the massive dysfunction, weakening of America, and strengthening of it's enemies as wished for by the Kenyan Communist:

Cozying up to Iran and providing billions in released assets and oil revenues.

Alienating Saudi Arabia (after Obama alienated Egypt with the Muslim Brotherhood), sabotaging our last, best alliance with an Arab state.

The pathetic Afghanistan debacle signaling complete American incompetence and retreat.

The Ukraine war that followed that display of weakness.

The attack on Israel coordinated with Iran resulting in the largest murder of Jews since WWII.

With the prospect of more ballot stuffing and prosecution of political opponents it's really hard to see how we are going to get out of this. Everything indicates we'll stumble into a major war before the next fraudulent election.

3 posted on 10/15/2023 10:18:31 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: pierrem15

Russia and north Korea are basically the only countries not having called Netanyahu to convey their condolences after Hamas attack.
And they havent even condemned HAMAS.

Kremlin neoSoviets are warmongering and fomenting wars or destabilizations all over the planet.

They do what they have always done: deceive.


4 posted on 10/15/2023 11:11:56 PM PDT by USA-FRANCE
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To: RomanSoldier19

Well Russia has an entire fleet of specialized submarines that are designed for such missions.

For example:

http://www.hisutton.com/Russian-Spy-Submarine-BS-64.html

And:

http://www.hisutton.com/Belgorod-Class-Submarine.html

Just to name two.


5 posted on 10/15/2023 11:12:41 PM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (Freedom is the sure possession of those alone who have the courage to defend it.)
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To: RomanSoldier19

Faux outrage from the people who blew up Nordstream.


6 posted on 10/16/2023 12:35:19 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: pierrem15

You overlooked his mastery of the Arabic language and his allegiances to his Islamic “faith”.


7 posted on 10/16/2023 2:54:35 AM PDT by himno hero (had'nff )
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To: RomanSoldier19

From Tucker Carlson’s interview of Victor Orban. Orban warns NATO not to NordStream the southern pipeline running through Hungary.

I have to ask you about Nord Stream. So, it seems very obvious that the Biden administration blew up Nord Stream either directly or through proxies. I don’t think, I’ve never heard anyone dispute that really. How is Western Europe, and Germany in particular, the biggest NATO member in Europe, not saying anything about this? It seemed to me, it just crushed the German economy. Why don’t they say a word about it?

So when it has happened, we commented it as a terrorist attack.

Yes.

It was rejected in Germany and in the West. It was not a terrorist attack, it was “something”, you know. So, that’s a kind of evidence of lack of sovereignty. But it’s the job of the Germans, I would not like to criticize them. What we Hungarians did immediately, we made clear that there is another pipeline, not just nordic stream, but there is a southern stream, coming gas from Russia through the southern corridor. Turkey, Bulgaria, Serbia, Hungary. And together with the Serbian Prime Minister, and President, we did make it very clear that if anybody would like to do the same thing with the Southern Corridor as it was done with the northern one, we consider it as a reason for war or terrorist attack and we will immediately react. So, don’t do that. Probably you can do it with the Germans, but you can’t do that with this region. That was very much…

Do you think people understand that?

I think so.

You were not speaking to the Russians when you said that.

On that subject?

Yes.

It’s a Hungarian issue, it’s not a Russian issue.

Right. But when you said to the world, don’t commit an act of terror against this pipeline you weren’t speaking…

It was not addressed to Moscow. No.

No, it was not, right. So, if you were in charge of NATO, if you were, say, Joe Biden, what would your next move be in the war in Ukraine? What would you do?

Peace. Immediately. Call back Trump. That’s the only way out.


8 posted on 10/16/2023 4:27:31 AM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: DesertRhino; hardspunned

let’s see your solid proof about NordStream then

lol


9 posted on 10/16/2023 4:49:35 AM PDT by canuck_conservative (there would be no more need for NATO, if Russia could just stop attacking its neighbors)
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To: canuck_conservative

Hah, Hah, Hah, still shilling the discredited Uniparty BS. Which NATO lie do you subscribe to, Russians or “rogue Ukes”?


10 posted on 10/16/2023 4:57:35 AM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: hardspunned

so you got no solid proof, just guesses

that’s what we thought


11 posted on 10/16/2023 5:09:37 AM PDT by canuck_conservative (there would be no more need for NATO, if Russia could just stop attacking its neighbors)
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To: canuck_conservative

Keep strutting it. I love the show.


12 posted on 10/16/2023 5:24:54 AM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: RomanSoldier19

“Nato vows to respond if Finland-Estonia gas pipeline damage is deliberate”

OBVIOUSLY Finland destroyed their pipeline, since they provide the gas that goes into it. As to why they did it, probably some kind of ‘territorial dispute’ with Estonia.

(well, that was all the rationale that our experts needed to point the finger at Russia over Nordstream)


13 posted on 10/16/2023 6:03:55 AM PDT by BobL (Trump gets my vote, even if I have to write him in; Millions of others will do the same)
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...traces of an “external, mechanical force” had been found on the seabed.

Aloha Snackbar?

14 posted on 10/16/2023 6:10:01 AM PDT by Libloather (Why do climate change hoax deniers live in mansions on the beach?)
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To: RomanSoldier19

Bkmk


15 posted on 10/17/2023 3:41:12 AM PDT by sauropod (I will stand for truth even if I stand alone.)
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To: BobL

A “determined” response.


16 posted on 10/17/2023 3:50:49 AM PDT by Palio di Siena (P01135809)
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