Posted on 10/12/2023 1:31:03 PM PDT by thegagline
Donald Trump obtained hundreds of millions of dollars in loans using financial statements that a court has since deemed fraudulent, a retired bank official testified Wednesday at the former president’s New York civil fraud trial.
Trump’s “statements of financial condition” were key to his approval for a $125 million loan in 2011 for his golf resort in Doral, Florida, and a $107 million loan in 2012 for his Chicago hotel and condo skyscraper, former Deutsche Bank risk management officer Nicholas Haigh testified.
But although the bank didn’t conduct its own full appraisals of Trump’s properties, it sometimes gave sizable “haircuts” to the values he’d placed on such holdings as Trump Tower and his golf courses, Haigh said.
“I think the phrase we used might have been ‘sanity checks’ on the numbers,” he said.
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A judge last month ruled that the former president and his company, the Trump Organization, committed years of fraud by exaggerating the value of Trump’s assets and net worth on the financial statements he gave to banks, insurers and others to make deals and secure loans.
Trump’s longtime finance chief, Allen Weisselberg, acknowledged in testimony Tuesday that information in the financial statements wasn’t always accurate. ***
Trump’s 2011 financial statement listed his net worth as $4.3 billion, though Deutsche Bank pegged it around $2.4 billion in an internal credit report as he sought the Doral loan. The bank knocked 75% off the worth he’d given for planned developments, with the internal document citing “the uncertainty in valuing undeveloped land,” for example. The bankers halved the value he’d listed for his golf courses and had a $94 million difference of opinion over how to account for golf membership deposits among his liquid assets. ***
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So first, who's fault is that and second, I guess nobody knows what the real value was so how can they now say he overvalued properties?
“A rational and honest judge would have dismissed the charges against Trump and referred Letitia James to the bar for suspension/disbarment.”
And then summoned the large men in white coats to lock her up in a rubber room!
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IF HE PAID BACK EVERY SINGLE LOAN——
WHY DOES IT MATTER ???
Exactly. Nobody harmed and the banker's profited.
I don’t Think I know anyone in real estate that did not over inflate the value of a property on transaction’s and under value property for tax payments unless it was in their best interest to do so.
So the douche bank failed its fiduciary Duty and did not do appraisals?
Is this the same judge who said Mar-a-Lago’s market value to be about $18 million?
Trump was denied a jury trial. A partisan hack "judge" "deemed" the statements to be fraudulent. A judge has no business "deeming" anything.
“.. difference of opinion over how to account for golf membership”
This is not fraud. Case closed!
I’m still trying to understand why a private deal between two willing parties, who both agreed on the amount and terms and signed an agreement to such, where all loans were re-paid in full, and no suits nor a dispute of any kind arose between them - is subject to NY Courts at all
There are no jury trials for cases in equity in NY. That is the law. Trump’s lawyers rightfully didn’t challenge this.
Apparently in New York law, it matters not that no one claimed to be damaged by Trump’s business dealings or that all the loans were repaid. It all hinges on ORANGE MAN BAD!!
That’s really a hideous banking practice. Banks need to protect their shareholders by doing full appraisals on all loans. They have a fiduciary responsibility to do so. So who has actually committed fraud in this case? I sense that with a little investigation you would find that Deutsche Bank has been repeatedly lying and cutting corners that had a negative impact of it shareholders. Contrast to the Trump Organization actually repaying their loans and benefiting many in the process.
Deutsche Bank has failed its Federal Reserve stress test and is on the verge of bankruptcy. Perhaps the cause is Deutsche Bank‘s business practices or lack there of.
So there was no fraud.
“It’s not lying. It’s commercial real estate.”
The value of real estate isn’t fixed even the point of sale because its value is dependent on what the next fool is willing to pay for it. It’s a guessing game every time because nobody has perfect knowledge.
“...it sometimes gave sizable “haircuts” to the values he’d placed on such holdings as Trump Tower and his golf courses, Haigh said.”
If Trump put his property in the best possible light, and that is fraud, then EVERY company who puts out a commercial on TV has committed fraud.
Plus every woman who wears make-up for a date. The list is endless.
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