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Israeli official says 'shameful' Trump comments on Netanyahu 'wound the spirit' of those fighting Hamas
Fox News ^ | Danielle Wallace

Posted on 10/12/2023 12:34:49 PM PDT by aperez77

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To: devere

Your comrade aperez77 no longer has an account here, don’t expect a response from them.


61 posted on 10/12/2023 1:19:35 PM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: gibsonguy
"Trump gave them this opening and boy are they using it. Trump shot himself in the foot again."

Yeah, he even got Liz Cheney and Rhonda Santis to finally criticize him.

Oh wait....

62 posted on 10/12/2023 1:20:39 PM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: aperez77

I don’t defend Trump much any more, but at least he has a mind to speak and speaks his mind. I dont know what the political impact of his words will be, but at least they are coherent and clearly not filtered through a polling sample.


63 posted on 10/12/2023 1:20:47 PM PDT by Palmetto State Conservative
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To: aperez77

Meh. President Trump was the most pro Israel president in history.

Spare the the BS about how his criticism of Bibi in any way demoralizes those fighting the islamofascists.


64 posted on 10/12/2023 1:21:17 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: hcmama

Netanyahu is no saint. His many problems and mistakes have weakened him. Trump is right to point that out.

He ran on a security platform and he has lost supporters who will not forgive him unless he flattens Gaza and many will never trust him again.

He needed a quick lethal strike.

He can’t now because of other influences.


65 posted on 10/12/2023 1:23:59 PM PDT by dforest
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To: aperez77
Israel is also chock full of libtards.

Many will successfully convert after this war is over.

66 posted on 10/12/2023 1:28:57 PM PDT by Pox (Eff You China. Buy American!)
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To: aperez77
hen asked if Trump’s remarks make it clear that he cannot be relied on, Karhi reportedly replied, according to the Times of Israel, "Obviously."

Israel had a very strong friend in Trump, and still does. With Trump, it's especially important to distinguish the talk from the actions, and his actions on Israel were always pro-Israel - all Israelis would do well to remember that.
67 posted on 10/12/2023 1:32:15 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: hcmama
And again, your TDS comments are pointless.

As I stated to the OP, there are plenty of libtards in Israel too.

Truth hurts sometimes. Doesn't mean that President Trump isn't fully behind Israel.

We know, it all doesn't matter to you.

What doesn't matter to anyone else, is your tired spiel attacking President Trump in a vain and pointless effort to attempt to convince other Freepers that an alternative would be a better bet for this election.

Whether that is factual or not is besides the point. The point is, when you can find another Republican candidate who can attract massive crowds like President Trump has, and still, does, then you can have a useful tidbit to add to the discourse.

As it stands now, your petty and puerile attacks are not only useless, they are the sign of someone who is attempting to stir up shit to get the results they desire... Just like President Trump! That puts you in good company. Maybe you should throw your hat in the ring!

68 posted on 10/12/2023 1:34:26 PM PDT by Pox (Eff You China. Buy American!)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

Trump isn’t supporting Bibi now, is he? He may well have been telling the truth, but right now, at THIS moment, it was an unnecessary thing to say in the middle of this nightmare.

There is a time and a place for everything and this wasn’t it.


69 posted on 10/12/2023 1:38:01 PM PDT by SE Mom
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To: libh8er

it was pure ignorance....just gotta make it about him. The guy is sick in the head....


70 posted on 10/12/2023 1:40:17 PM PDT by basalt (qb's)
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To: devere

How in the world did Israel succumb to a surprise attack?

Who disarmed the Israeli population? (in many cases the Hamas terrorists were sitting ducks from sniper fire from building balconies... except they were not allowed to own guns)

Why for several hours (3+ hours) before contacting the local security forces in the various Kibbutzes? They were not authorized to open their armories and distribute their weapons. Only Kibbutzs that remained unharmed and is the one because where the security officer (a 25 year old girl) disobeyed orders and opened their armory and distributed weapons.

Why were the sensos off on their fences on that Holyday?

Why did they not expect an attack on the 50th anniversary of something?? what a bunch of incompetents, they should have been at high alert!

Why are the ammunitions used in the iron dome interceptors running low?

These are all constructive criticism questions, is these problems are not fixed Israel will really suffer.

And now these MORONS, and INCOMPETENTS running the Israeli security forces are trying to divert attention and cover their own butts by screaming ‘We will have revenge’ ‘we will invade Gaza and leave it as rubble’

First of all, that is a trap, and second of all, All the goodwill gathered around the world will disappear as the numbers of civilian (Palestinian) deaths in Gaza increase.

Incompetents! And Netanyahu is right at the top of them.

What is wrong with criticizing Netanyahu?


71 posted on 10/12/2023 1:40:35 PM PDT by Toughluck_freeper
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To: Leaning Right

OTOH, truth gets trampled in times such as we’re in. We’re big folk, we can stand the truth and if we can’t — we’re sunk. It seems we’ve reached a point where “truth” is so suppressed the issue is now light or darkness. Take your pick.


72 posted on 10/12/2023 1:49:30 PM PDT by Paraclete
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To: aperez77
Sounds like Shlomo Karhi in Israel is a little butt-hurt. Was he part of the reason there was a major security and intelligence failure in Israel?

What really wounded the spirit of Israelis is the failure of the Israeli security apparatus. It is almost like they allowed this to happen, or they were so overconfident that they forgot that they have neighbors that are evil and constantly plotting and trying to find ways to harm them as badly as they can.

Trump pointing out this failure is not the problem. Their inability to acknowledge this failure as they coddled the terrorists, is a huge problem.

Shlomo seems to want to sweep the failure under the rug and pretend it did not happen.

Israel is full of libs who want to coddle their blood thristy enemies. Now they probably want to hide their failure.

73 posted on 10/12/2023 1:52:31 PM PDT by Moorings
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To: aperez77

I doubt Trump MADE IT UP... I believe him.

But their interpretation is the problem.

He did not say they were ‘smart’ to praise them, it was more in a ‘don’t underestimate your opponent’ framework.

And they know it, or are really stupid.


74 posted on 10/12/2023 1:53:54 PM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing Obamacare is worse than Obamacare)
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To: Toughluck_freeper

When I was in Nam we were always on high alert around US holidays, esp 4th of July, Thanksgiving, Xmas.. There were usually attacks of various intensity. It’s inexcusable that the Israelis were so complacent.


75 posted on 10/12/2023 1:55:34 PM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: Mr. K

Yep. The people claiming he complimented the terrorists are either the liars spinning it or the usual braindead TDSers. What he said was no a compliment but a reality.

This Hamas attack continues to expose our enemies. Foreign and domestic.


76 posted on 10/12/2023 1:58:36 PM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: Leaning Right
"What Trump said might well have been true. But this was not the best time to say it."

I think it was the perfect time. Trump gave Bibi a loving kick in the butt to man up and do the right thing this time. Grow some iron balls... go through with the plan.

77 posted on 10/12/2023 1:59:34 PM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop ( ~~ TRUMP is right about EVERYTHING ! ~~ )
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To: aperez77

How could anyone with a functioning frontal lobe, not conclude Israeli intelligence FAILED, MASSIVELY...

There are only 2 options as to how this happened...

1) Israeli intelligence failed, MASSIVELY.

or

2) Israeli leadership and intelligence was aware this was going to occur and let it happen.

Now, I am not remotely suggesting the second option is true, but this is black and white, there is absolutely no middle ground here... one of those 2 things is true... and EITHER one of them being true is beyond disturbing.


78 posted on 10/12/2023 2:00:15 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Leaning Right

I had a lot of issues with Bush after 9/11, but immediately afterwards wasn’t the time to bring them up.


79 posted on 10/12/2023 2:01:18 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: hcmama
Sounds like DeSantis and some of his supporters, RINOs, democrats are desperate grasping at straws to slice and dice Trump's speech, taking out little pieces to spin out lies to make Trump look like he is supportive of these terrorists.

There has been no president in recent history who has done more for Israel than Trump. His accomplishments in his last term speak for themselves. Anybody with half a brain can see that.

The RINOs in congress, the RINO presidents (Bush 1 and 2), democrat presidents have not done what Trump did. They were wringing their hands, afraid to upset the arabs.

What Trump said is the truth. We can acknowledge that our enemies are evil and constantly trying to get us. We can acknowledge that THEY ARE SMART and will find loopholes to get at us bad. The first step to protecting ourselves is to acknowledge that our enemies are smart and will find ways to get at us. The next step is to be smarter than them and find ways to protect ourselves.

80 posted on 10/12/2023 2:02:34 PM PDT by Moorings
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