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Volodymyr Zelensky concerned that Ukraine aid could be diverted to Israel (Ukraine 'bout to be thrown under the bus)
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Posted on 10/12/2023 6:21:10 AM PDT by Rattlesnake_Snook

Volodymyr Zelensky fears that Western aid for Ukraine could be diverted to Israel.

The Ukrainian president made his first visit to NATO's headquarters in Brussels since Russia invaded his country in February 2022 as he looks to shore up support for the war-torn nation following Hamas' attack on Israel.

When asked if Kyiv was concerned that aid could go to Israel, Zelensky said: "Of course, everybody's afraid.


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1 posted on 10/12/2023 6:21:10 AM PDT by Rattlesnake_Snook
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To: Rattlesnake_Snook

Wait till your fuel runs out...and your food is next...there’s more than one way to lose.


2 posted on 10/12/2023 6:22:24 AM PDT by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: Rattlesnake_Snook

The way I see it, that’s what this Hamass thingy is all about. Diverting the big bucks and toys away from Zelenskyyyyy. If we had a real CIA interested in destroying terrorism instead of putting Americans in prison, they would have seen this sh*t coming and done something about it. Too much “affirmative action” in the CIA.


3 posted on 10/12/2023 6:26:31 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Make America FIRST Again. FJB)
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To: Rattlesnake_Snook

Ukraine is battling Israel for the last remnants of what was once a large US and European ground arsenal, and Ukraine is losing, as the news from Avdiivka now shows.


4 posted on 10/12/2023 6:31:19 AM PDT by BobL (Trump gets my vote, even if I have to write him in; Millions of others will do the same)
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To: Rattlesnake_Snook
In the article: "NATO chief Jens Stoltenberg sought to reassure the Ukrainian leader at the beginning of the two-day meeting."

Time for some fine dining, eh? Drink too.

I've worked in Bruxelles, and the old inner city has some darn good restaurants. Couple of hours of chitter-chat leaves a lot of time for gustatorial splendor and samplings from the vineyards.

5 posted on 10/12/2023 6:32:22 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
"If we had a real CIA interested in destroying terrorism instead of putting Americans in prison"

Given the events of the last three years, my impression is that the Feebs don't consider those things as mutually exclusive. Heck, they've told us in print and interviews via their proxies who they consider their greatest threat (hint: it isn't Hamas or Hezbollah).

6 posted on 10/12/2023 6:32:53 AM PDT by Tench_Coxe (The woke were surprised by the reaction to the Bud Light fiasco. May there be many more surprises)
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To: Rattlesnake_Snook

Wait until a new massive spending bill comes.
They’re going to get our troops killed in Syria and then we declare war on Syria and Iran.
Funding will go to war, anywhere, in a massive way.

You will not oppose it or you’re a terrorist yourself.
You will cheer and you will eat freedom fries while our southern border stays open.


7 posted on 10/12/2023 6:34:45 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Not wanting to be labeled a “conspiracy nut”, I did not voice my questions about the timing of this assault. I get the striking during the holiday but why this holiday? Is this a reaction to a real or perceived injustice done recently by Israel. Is this the reaction to an anti Islam video (wink, wink, nod, nod) or such. What line is coming out of DC as the narrative of why this happened. Does DC agree with Zman, more Russians in the woodpile?


8 posted on 10/12/2023 6:40:11 AM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: Rattlesnake_Snook

I’m concerned that Ukraine aid could divert funds and attention from Israel.


9 posted on 10/12/2023 6:40:49 AM PDT by cymbeline
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To: Rattlesnake_Snook

Israel has 155 mm artillery shells, but they are unlikely to use many of them because they have laser guided small diameter bombs that do a much more efficient job. These can’t be used in Ukraine because Ukraine can’t deliver them safely. Meanwhile Ukraine is firing thousands of artillery shells per day. The requirements do not overlap. As for other big-ticket items, Israel has all it needs, and those items don’t overlap with what Ukraine needs. The place where Ukraine and Israel’s needs overlap is in the intelligence realm. Even so, the assets don’t all overlap, and the US does have an excess of satellite surveillance equipment, probably enough to serve both parties. The issue is manpower on the US’s part to man the systems for a longer number of hours in the day. The same satellites pass over both Israel and Ukraine several times per day.


10 posted on 10/12/2023 6:43:43 AM PDT by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud? )
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Ukraine lost - time to stop sending Zelensky revenue to spread around to his top leaders.


11 posted on 10/12/2023 6:55:29 AM PDT by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......)
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“Ukraine lost - time to stop sending Zelensky revenue to spread around to his top leaders.”

Ukraine is TOTALLY YESTERDAY. Even their Operative here have returned to being dark, as their new assignment is to find a way to go after Israel in a way that doesn’t get them kicked out of their forum.


12 posted on 10/12/2023 6:58:01 AM PDT by BobL (Trump gets my vote, even if I have to write him in; Millions of others will do the same)
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Zelensky’s whining is to light a fire under the DC Establishment to immediately put together another US debt- slaughtering Israeli aid package - so they can slide in $$goodies for Ukraine. Plus Zelensky’s sex-starved——his wife is “holding out” until US foreign aid finances another of her shopping trips to Paris.


Zelensky Pushing US for Long-term Security Deal Based On ‘Israeli Model’
Ukraine has come out vocally backing Israel despite arms sales to Hamas.
BY DANIEL BUSH, 8/31/23, newsweek.com
Excerpt-—Ukrainian President Volodymyr said he expects Ukraine and the United States will agree to a security pact that’s similar to the alliance between the U.S. and Israel. The two countries don’t have a defense treaty, but the U.S. provides Israel with billions in military aid and has long been its most important ally.

“We will likely get this exact model,” Zelensky said in an interview Sunday with Ukrainian media, “the Israeli model that includes weapons, technology, training [and] finances.”

Such an arrangement would provide Ukraine less security than membership in NATO, which President Biden has said won’t happen before the end of the war. But it would establish Ukraine as a critical long-term partner for the U.S. in Eastern Europe, while sending Russia the message that Western support for Kyiv won’t waiver.

Congress is required by law to ensure that U.S. military aid in the Middle East region doesn’t damage Israel’s military superiority over its neighbors. That requirement enjoys broad bipartisan support and has served as a benchmark for ensuring Israel receives robust U.S. support.

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When Zelensky says he wants aid akin to the Israeli model, here’s what he means.


Congressional Research Service
US Foreign aid to Israel
60 page detailed report

https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/RL/RL33222/44


13 posted on 10/12/2023 6:59:15 AM PDT by Liz (“The only time Biden gets his hands dirty is when he’s taking cash from foreign countries." Trump)
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To: BobL
"Even their Operative here have returned to being dark, as their new assignment is to find a way to go after Israel in a way that doesn’t get them kicked out of their forum."

You noticed that too....

14 posted on 10/12/2023 7:02:28 AM PDT by Tench_Coxe (The woke were surprised by the reaction to the Bud Light fiasco. May there be many more surprises)
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Biden gives Zelensky another $40 billion US tax dollars.

“And I put $20 billion in an offshore account for you, Joe, just like Hunter told me to.”

15 posted on 10/12/2023 7:17:12 AM PDT by Liz (“The only time Biden gets his hands dirty is when he’s taking cash from foreign countries." Trump)
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To: Liz

That photo should be on their arrest warrant for money laundering.

If the American MSM had any stones it would be on the front pages with title Syndicate Busted.


16 posted on 10/12/2023 7:25:21 AM PDT by Vaduz (....)
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To: Rattlesnake_Snook

No more money for Ukrine.


17 posted on 10/12/2023 7:29:16 AM PDT by GailA (GMOs have a new name 'BIOENGINEERED' read labels. Constitutional Conservative.)
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To: BobL

Won’t disagree with your post.


18 posted on 10/12/2023 7:43:07 AM PDT by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......)
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Volodymyr Zelensky concerned that Ukraine aid could be diverted to Israel

Which is the same thing the President of Poland Duda has said: "It certainly benefits Russia and Russian aggression against Ukraine. It distracts the world's attention... But above all, I am afraid that it will unfortunately cause further migration pressure on Europe," Duda said in an interview with private broadcaster Polsat News.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/mideast-violence-benefits-russia-adds-migration-pressure-eu-polish-president-2023-10-08/

19 posted on 10/12/2023 8:02:39 AM PDT by tlozo ( Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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As for other big-ticket items, Israel has all it needs, and those items don’t overlap with what Ukraine needs.

Yup, Israeli Ambassador Ben Zvi stated that Israel will NOT need some great supply of weapons from the US.

“Secondly, those who believe that the United States will have to redirect some serious resources to Israel are greatly mistaken,” he added, noting that the US is a strategic partner and will continue to supply it with weapons."

20 posted on 10/12/2023 8:06:29 AM PDT by tlozo ( Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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