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Israeli arms quietly helped Azerbaijan retake Nagorno-Karabakh, to the dismay of region's Armenians
ABC ^ | 10/04/2023 | Isabel Debre

Posted on 10/09/2023 2:27:19 PM PDT by TexasKamaAina

The fighting prompted over 100,000 people — more than 80% of the enclave's ethnic Armenian residents — to flee in the last two weeks.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; War; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: armenia; armenians; azerbaijan; ethniccleansing; fakenews; genocide; israel; lookatauthorsname; nagornokarabakh; postedseveraltimes; searchworks; stillfakenews
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The Middle East is complicated.
1 posted on 10/09/2023 2:27:19 PM PDT by TexasKamaAina
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To: TexasKamaAina

Russia helps Armenia.

Azerbaijan, Turkey, and Israel help Ukraine.

Not very complicated at all.


2 posted on 10/09/2023 2:32:35 PM PDT by Redmen4ever
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To: TexasKamaAina

Surprise! The jewish state helps muslims kill and enslave christians.


3 posted on 10/09/2023 2:34:04 PM PDT by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks, and have the will to use them.)
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To: TexasKamaAina

Most Armenians are Christian while most Azerbaijanis are Muslim, is that correct?


4 posted on 10/09/2023 2:35:27 PM PDT by SharpRightTurn (“Giving money & power to government is like giving whiskey & car keys to teenage boys” P.J. O’Rourke)
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To: SharpRightTurn

Correct.


5 posted on 10/09/2023 2:38:46 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: TexasKamaAina

Confusion ! Israel state’s policy is one thing and israelian people is another one .
What’s the point ?


6 posted on 10/09/2023 2:46:17 PM PDT by Ulysse
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To: joma89

Our Greatest Ally tm


7 posted on 10/09/2023 2:50:41 PM PDT by Mr. Blond
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To: TexasKamaAina
Israel has a big stake in Azerbaijan, which serves as a critical source of oil and is a staunch ally against Israel’s archenemy Iran. It is also a lucrative customer of sophisticated arms.

A lot of Americans want to believe in a the World that is a simple black and white place. It isn't isn't and never has been.

8 posted on 10/09/2023 2:53:47 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Don't blame me, my congressman is MTG!)
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To: Mr. Blond

Go post on du, where most people agree with you.


9 posted on 10/09/2023 3:02:01 PM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMceERICA! DEATH TO MARXISM AND GLOBALISM! Trump 2024, NO more Mr Nice)
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To: Redmen4ever; TexasKamaAina; Kazan
Eh, it's a "little" more complicated than that: "As an Azerbaijani, I have to speak out about my country’s ethnic cleansing of Armenians"

Beyond what's spoken of in the op-ed: Nagorno-Karabakh (and the Republic of Artsakh in particular) was, in the eyes of the world, recognized as part of Azerbaijan, even though some countries (Russia in particular) had intervened throughout the years to try and maintain a ceasefire.

Naturally, when Azerbaijan blockaded the sole road (the Lachin corridor) connecting Nagorno-Karabakh to the outside world, this would mean that Azerbaijan was blockading and launching military options on its own territory against its own people...which would be highly inconvenient, given prior rationale utilized justifying the case for intervention in Libya and Yugoslavia. But there were proverbial crickets when Azerbaijan essentially gave the ethnic Armenians in Nagorno-Karabakh a choice between exile or death (because Russia, as far as I'm aware, had no official diplomatic recognition of sovereignty regarding Artsakh; they do with Armenia, and since Artsakh was de jure part of Azerbaijan (even though it was de facto majority Armenian), there was no cause for Russia to invoke any of its obligations under the CSTO to come to Artsakh's defense, especially if Armenia proper wasn't going to do anything about it).

So now we live in a world where over 100,000 ethnic Armenians have fled Nagorno-Karabakh to avoid the threat of genocide at the hands of Azerbaijan. Strange, how this doesn't get much air time or sympathy from Western media.

10 posted on 10/09/2023 3:02:59 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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You Israe haters are really showing your buts this week. Go vote for Biden.


11 posted on 10/09/2023 3:03:13 PM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMceERICA! DEATH TO MARXISM AND GLOBALISM! Trump 2024, NO more Mr Nice)
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It's trivial to look up the fact that Iran is antagonistic towards Azerbaijan because of its ties with Turkey; as such, good relations with Azerbaijan has long been a focus of Israel's ever since they were one of the first states to recognize Azerbaijan's independence in the early '90s.

That Israel has provided weapons to Azerbaijan for years isn't a conspiracy theory, but a publicly known fact, as this 2019 article shows.

If the truth upsets you so, you're free to take your own advice and head to DU yourself.

12 posted on 10/09/2023 3:07:59 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

No, I will stay here.


13 posted on 10/09/2023 3:15:22 PM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMceERICA! DEATH TO MARXISM AND GLOBALISM! Trump 2024, NO more Mr Nice)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

I was responding to blonds greatest ally sarcastic post, not to you.


14 posted on 10/09/2023 3:16:36 PM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMceERICA! DEATH TO MARXISM AND GLOBALISM! Trump 2024, NO more Mr Nice)
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To: SharpRightTurn; ConservativeMind

Haven’t you been following? In the last 10 years, Russia has been shifting more to the Azerbaijani side. Remember, Azerbaijan has the helpful oil pipeline the Russians need. Their support for Armenia is not strong. But Armenia has no where else to go.


15 posted on 10/09/2023 3:43:43 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: cowboyusa; Mr. Blond; Alberta's Child

Is Mr. Blond’s implicit opinion — that Israel is not our greatest ally — inherently worthy of DU?

They certainly are an ally, to be sure; however, is it beyond the pale to suggest that sometimes their interests and America’s are not aligned?


16 posted on 10/09/2023 3:44:47 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

It was said sarcasticly.


17 posted on 10/09/2023 4:02:12 PM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMceERICA! DEATH TO MARXISM AND GLOBALISM! Trump 2024, NO more Mr Nice)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

The last Armenian genocide was also pretty much ignored.


18 posted on 10/09/2023 4:33:39 PM PDT by Reno89519 (It's war. No one murders and takes Americans hostage. Time to act. Declare war on Hamas.)
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Re: "The last Armenian genocide was also pretty much ignored."

As I recall, the last Armenian genocide happened 30 years BEFORE the tiny nation of Israel was created.

I need to read a lot more information on this subject before I believe that Israel is actively helping a Muslim country murder Armenian Christians.

19 posted on 10/09/2023 5:24:18 PM PDT by zeestephen (Trump "Lost" By 43,000 Votes - Spread Across Three States - GA, WI, AZ)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

good to hear from an Azeri

If Armenia and Azerbaijan both joined NATO and the EU, there would be free movement of goods, capital and people among those two countries and Turkey, etc. Old ethnic tensions would slowly pass away. We would have peace, prosperity and mutual defense.

Have you been to Europe? Crossing a border there is like crossing a state border in the U.S. Still, each nation of Europe has control of its language and culture (though of course there are tensions). And, each has its own Olympic team and other aspects of national identity.

You Azeris serve as a homeland for a population much larger than within your borders. The same is true for Armenia. The challenge of the 21st Century is preserving our national identities while taking advantage of the emerging global economy and society. It sounds impossible. But, I believe we can find a way and even make a way where we have to.


20 posted on 10/09/2023 5:38:01 PM PDT by Redmen4ever
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