Posted on 10/06/2023 6:27:56 AM PDT by cotton1706
The list is long. McCarthy was a go along to get along insider. The power of the House is enormous. That power needs to be leveraged. First, He will eliminate CR's by cutting spending 1% if a CR is passed. That will get people negotiating. 2nd, single bills, regular order.
Please enlighten me as to how many subpoenas he has issued from his post on Judiciary. And how many of those have lead to indictments. Maybe that's what you meant when you said "more effective."
The truth is, I like Jordan. He makes for great tv with his yelling and hand-waving. He's like Trey Gowdy. Sound and fury that ultimately signifies nothing. Bark, no bite. And that's fine. We need people like him in Congress. But to think he will actually do something is foolhardy, IMHO. He has a proven record of doing nothing substantive.
The sad thing is that McCarthy was perfect for the job but just couldn’t get his mind right. He had the looks, the temperament, the intelligence and was masterful in handling the media.
Your hopes all seem to be procedural, not related to policy. Which is fine, but ultimately the House is severely limited in what it can accomplish given the Senate and WH are in the hands of the opposition. The House can pass the most amazingly Conservative budget/bills in the history of Congress which will then die a very quick death in the Senate, and House Republicans will look like fools.
“Please enlighten me as to how many subpoenas”
Not sure but I think that McCarthy had to approve any subpoenas and didn’t.
Conference committee's can negotiate rather than surrender.
House power is not limited to passing legislation, but also to serve as a block!
As for what I expect Jordan to accomplish, for starters, release ALL the J6 video which McCarthy promised, then reniged!
“Scalise is McCarthy 2.0 and the most terrible candidate for speaker.”
Agreed.
On May 2, 2014, Jordan introduced House Resolution 565, “Calling on Attorney General Eric H. Holder, Jr., to appoint a special counsel to investigate the targeting of conservative nonprofit groups by the Internal Revenue Service”. It passed on May 7, 2014.[44] Holder, who had previously been found to be in contempt of Congress, failed to appoint a special counsel to investigate the alleged procedural abuses of IRS employees, including Lois Lerner.
In March 2017, Jordan criticized the newly introduced American Health Care Act, the Republican replacement bill for the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, calling it an unacceptable form of “Obamacare Lite”.[45] On May 4, 2017, he voted to pass a revised version of the legislation.[46][47]
On June 13, 2018, Jordan and Representative Mark Meadows filed a resolution to compel the Department of Justice to provide certain documents to Congress relating to the ongoing congressional investigations of Russian interference in the 2016 election. The resolution asserted that the DOJ was stonewalling congressional oversight and sought to give the DOJ seven days from its enactment to turn over documents related to both Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein’s appointment of Special Counsel Robert Mueller as well as various decisions made by the FBI during the 2016 presidential election. Jordan issued a press release that stated:
This resolution gives the DOJ seven days to turn over the documents that they owe Congress. Rod Rosenstein threatened congressional staff. When the bully picks on your little brother, you have to respond. It’s time for House Leadership to stand up and pass this resolution.[48]
On July 25, 2018, Jordan and Meadows introduced articles of impeachment against Rosenstein, whom they accused of “intentionally withholding embarrassing documents and information, knowingly hiding material investigative information from Congress, various abuses of the FISA process, and failure to comply with congressional subpoenas”. Jordan stated that impeachment was necessary because:
The DOJ is keeping information from Congress. Enough is enough. It’s time to hold Mr. Rosenstein accountable for blocking Congress’s constitutional oversight role.[49][50]
Jordan and Representative Warren Davidson were the only members of Ohio’s congressional delegation and two of 60 members of Congress to vote in October 2019 against a bipartisan resolution that passed the House 354–60 condemning Trump’s unilateral withdrawal of U.S. military forces from Syria.[51][52][53]
Committee assignments
Committee on the Judiciary (chairman)
Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of the Federal Government (chairman)[58]
Committee on Oversight and Government Reform
Subcommittee on Health Care, Benefits, and Administrative Rules
Subcommittee on Government Operations
Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Crisis[59]
House Select Committee on the Events Surrounding the 2012 Terrorist Attack in Benghazi (2014-2016)
Committee on Intelligence (temporary)
First, he supports Jordan. 2nd, I think he is building his conservative resume, as Jordan did over multiple years. This is wise, to be prepared and to yield to the better candidate, unlike DeSantis.
You don't go from a rookie to the House leader under those circumstances.
Again, I like Jordan, but he's a grandstander. McCarthy wasn't perfect, but he was politically astute. His biggest mistake was allowing Gaetz (the right's version of AOC) to call a vote. If the next Speaker allows that rule to stand, it will be the dumbest move in the history of DC.
You are flat-out wrong about the last point.
Pass a stand-alone bill to fund Social Security and Medicare, and see what happens.
Then pass another one to fund the U.S. Dept. of Defense (with no funding for Ukraine), and see what happens.
Then work your way through each department of the U.S. government, one at a time.
You'd probably get through at least a dozen bills before you got to one that the U.S. Senate had the b@lls to reject.
What you're forgetting here is that the Senate and White House aren't the problem. The real problem is that we don't even have enough conservative Republicans in the HOUSE to pass a conservative budget/bill.
“He hasn’t even been in Congress for three years yet ... you don’t go from a rookie to the House leader “
But you can go from real estate developer to President of the United States in one year.
In any case, “what difference, at this point, does it make?” We’re so screwed that there is no hope no matter who gets the position.
“The sad thing is that McCarthy was perfect for the job but just couldn’t get his mind right. He had the looks, the temperament, the intelligence and was masterful in handling the media.”
He was also spineless, wrong on the issues and lacked credibility. Zero discipline when it came to unifying his caucus. People compare him to John Boehner and Paul Ryan but I think he had more in common with Mitch McConnell than the previous two.
McCarthy was the wrong man in the wrong position at the wrong time. Glad he’s gone.
“?You just cited Resolutions, not Bills. Resolutions are nothing. They do not become laws. Like Jordan, they have no teeth.
Again, I like Jordan, but he’s a grandstander. McCarthy wasn’t perfect, but he was politically astute. His biggest mistake was allowing Gaetz (the right’s version of AOC) to call a vote. If the next Speaker allows that rule to stand, it will be the dumbest move in the history of DC.”
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“McCarthy wasn’t perfect, but he was politically astute.”
Is that what we’re calling liars now? Astute?
“His biggest mistake was allowing Gaetz (the right’s version of AOC) to call a vote. If the next Speaker allows that rule to stand, it will be the dumbest move in the history of DC.”
YOU’RE referring to the rule that was in place before pelosi was elected? The rule that Pelosi demanded to be removed? And that change was also adopted by Gaetz to remain in order for Gaetz to vote in favor of McCarthy to be elected Speaker.
Gaetz was right to demand the Motion to vacate be included because he knew McCarthy was a liar and a snake!
Had the victory not been agreed upon, we’d still be stuck with the snake and very little power to remove him since the Republican majority is infected with centrists, the likes of which Newt applauded as a “big tent”
You simply hate Gaetz because he was victorious as a minority opposition to the big tent. And because of that it has exposed those you term to be “astute”
perhaps you and I disagree on the definition of acceptable character credentials!
Why do you think that is?
It's amazing what a few years can do once you get a taste of television lights and fundraising off the chaos you inflict upon Congress. Gaetz doesn't give a sh-t about the country. He cares about his ability to make money after politics. He wants cable news interviews and social media followers. He uses Congress as a platform for his own enrichment. He's disgusting.
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