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A new form of warfare’: how Ukraine reclaimed the Black Sea from Russian forces
Guardian UK ^ | 10/5/2023 | Luke Harding

Posted on 10/05/2023 6:30:02 PM PDT by marcusmaximus

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To: aMorePerfectUnion

anybody who isn’t paranoid, and who has at least some common sense, can see that they are false

guess you can’t see the obvious


81 posted on 10/06/2023 5:41:18 AM PDT by canuck_conservative (there would be no more need for NATO, if Russia could just stop attacking its neighbors)
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To: Right_Wing_Madman
Like what happened in Vietnam, the public will tire of an undeclared war going nowhere.

Exactly what Putin is counting on. We tire and lose interest and don't send support, and the enemy wins.

That's a strategy which wins wars, for the enemy. We would then have to go through it all over again, in another part of the world. Welcome to a losing strategy.
82 posted on 10/06/2023 5:51:43 AM PDT by adorno
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To: canuck_conservative

—> anybody who isn’t paranoid, and who has at least some common sense, can see that they are false

In other words, you are just posting your opinion and no facts.

Perfectly fine to have an opinion.

But it’s just an unfounded opinion without facts.


83 posted on 10/06/2023 6:02:41 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything)
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To: marcusmaximus

Smart, be like the US and hide your military forces in foreign countries. Then you can claim aggreived status. Why Russia attacked Ukraine today, who were storing our tanks and missiles for us... Wait... that may lead to war, like Russia attacking into Germany to destroy the supply lines. Maybe in CA, there are weapons being built there to supply their active foe in combat.

WHERE DOES THIS END? In negotiation or annihilation of millions. I vote for negotiation.


84 posted on 10/06/2023 8:01:38 AM PDT by Glad2bnuts (“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: We should have set up ambushes...paraphrased)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

HOORAY, and with a ++ GOOD thrown in .


85 posted on 10/06/2023 8:03:24 AM PDT by Glad2bnuts (“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: We should have set up ambushes...paraphrased)
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To: adorno

Yeah, that Vietnam thing was a winner. They are better off over there without us doing anything. It has always been so. We took over for a defeated world power, who was on the brink of the cliff.

We took over for Russia in Afghanistan, and got the Poppies planted on time, and harvest planned for centuries. That is how good we are.


86 posted on 10/06/2023 8:05:39 AM PDT by Glad2bnuts (“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: We should have set up ambushes...paraphrased)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I flew in 1975 and again in 1978. I think there should be a limit on plane travel. Maximum 4 in your life, unless you have a note from your mom.


87 posted on 10/06/2023 8:08:04 AM PDT by Glad2bnuts (“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: We should have set up ambushes...paraphrased)
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To: adorno

Why is that so? Ukraine is like Nebraska, with prettier women.


88 posted on 10/06/2023 8:09:51 AM PDT by Glad2bnuts (“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: We should have set up ambushes...paraphrased)
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To: Kazan

After an agreement was made, the Russians were rebuffed. Biteme needed the money flow to continue for his family and great grandchildren... if any. Plus, well everyone in DC gets their “beak wet” in Keee EVV.


89 posted on 10/06/2023 8:11:45 AM PDT by Glad2bnuts (“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: We should have set up ambushes...paraphrased)
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To: Glad2bnuts
Why is that so? Ukraine is like Nebraska, with prettier women.

Prettier women? Which? Nebraska or Ukraine?
90 posted on 10/06/2023 8:21:36 AM PDT by adorno
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To: CrimsonTidegirl

Oh, I’d consider the National Enquirer to be a reputable publication. Why ? Because I they were the only courageous publication to expose the seedy behavior of Sinator John Edwards, his mistress and love child. The “mainstream media” ignored the story for not wanting to harm their sleazy, Demonrat golden boy.


91 posted on 10/06/2023 11:12:21 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (America Owes Anita Bryant An Enormous Apology)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

can’t disprove a negative

YOU need to provide proof that your allegations are true

so far, not one of you Russo-stooges has provided ANY solid evidence that NATO wants to attack Russia, that Putin is a good leader, that Maidan wasn’t a natural response to a lying Russian stooge, etc.

now YOU put up or shut up


92 posted on 10/06/2023 11:12:45 AM PDT by canuck_conservative (there would be no more need for NATO, if Russia could just stop attacking its neighbors)
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To: canuck_conservative

Ah, but it is you who claims these things are “Russian lies.”

Demonstrate your claim is true.

If your truth claim is true, you must have some facts to prove it, no?


93 posted on 10/06/2023 11:15:41 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything)
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To: BlackbirdSST

They must all be locked in the basements by their mothers. ;-D


94 posted on 10/06/2023 11:16:04 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (America Owes Anita Bryant An Enormous Apology)
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To: canuck_conservative

Just to remind you of what you claim are lies, here’s what you listed…

“ the Maidan lies, the Moskva sinking lie, Putin is a great leader, NATO wants to attack Russia, Russia is the victim, etc.”

“all idiotic nonsense”

I’m asking you to prove your claim.


95 posted on 10/06/2023 11:17:58 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

nope, YOU need to provide proof that any of that is true

until then, it’s just your paranoid Russian fantasies


96 posted on 10/06/2023 11:19:31 AM PDT by canuck_conservative (there would be no more need for NATO, if Russia could just stop attacking its neighbors)
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To: canuck_conservative

No.

You specifically said they are Russian lies.

If so, surely you can prove your claims.

If not, just your bloviations.

That’s fine and what I expect.

Post what you have.


97 posted on 10/06/2023 11:21:09 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

yes, they are lies

but YOU are claiming they are true

so, show your proof that they’re true

(avoidance = you have no proof)


98 posted on 10/06/2023 11:30:24 AM PDT by canuck_conservative (there would be no more need for NATO, if Russia could just stop attacking its neighbors)
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To: canuck_conservative
yes, they are lies

THAT is a claim. Prove it.

99 posted on 10/06/2023 11:59:41 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

right, we knew you had no proof

unproven paranoid Russian nonsense


100 posted on 10/06/2023 12:01:08 PM PDT by canuck_conservative (there would be no more need for NATO, if Russia could just stop attacking its neighbors)
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