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Kevin McCarthy's run as Speaker is finished. Is Matt Gaetz a villain or a hero?
Fox News ^ | 10/4/2023 | Liz Peek

Posted on 10/04/2023 5:56:17 AM PDT by randita

Is Matt Gaetz a hero or a villain?

The camera-loving Republican from Florida who threatened to shut down the government and who masterminded the ousting of Speaker Kevin McCarthy on Tuesday has made more than a few enemies in Congress.

He doesn’t care; he represents a district in Florida that hasn’t gone Democrat in decades and that went for former President Trump in 2020 by 68% to 29%. That means that in 2018, for instance, election gurus gave him 99% odds of being reelected, even though his approval rating was a dismal 20% -- worse than Joe Biden.

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To: randita

He’s an idiot with no plan.


81 posted on 10/04/2023 6:53:38 AM PDT by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: PIF

All of you RINO types allow RATs to scare the pee out of you. I guess you missed the fracas in the RAT Party when the awful progressives shooed out the old style liberals.

Dems look really bad at the moment and now is the time to yank the marbles out of the old jock strap and pounce.

Oh me Oh my the sky is falling. Face it, if the party who has taken over this country and cheats to win again, the surrender party is going to lose anyway.

People like people who want to win and are bold about it. Trump is an example.

That is, unless you enjoy the loser and subserviant status quo.


82 posted on 10/04/2023 6:53:39 AM PDT by dforest
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To: tennmountainman

There was a clip of “The Five” my wife and I clicked on YOUTUBE last night. First the judge, then Greg Gutfeld and then the liberal woman ALL denounced Gaetz.
Yes, even Greg.

We turned it off about half way through and both agreed this is why we stopped watching Fox News and cut cable TV too.


83 posted on 10/04/2023 6:54:18 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: Right_in_Virginia

Yes


84 posted on 10/04/2023 6:56:30 AM PDT by dforest
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To: JayGalt
Just so you agree that it wasn't Gaetz who took out McCarthy.

Matt Gaetz collaborated with the Democrats to take out McCarthy

85 posted on 10/04/2023 6:57:07 AM PDT by hcmama
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To: randita

I’m just hoping that Gaetz has a plan moving forward. “The dog catching the car, now what?” mentality has to end.


86 posted on 10/04/2023 6:57:48 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (At this point, I would rather have the illegals here than the liberals.)
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To: randita
The last time Congress approved all 12 appropriations by the October 1 start to the federal fiscal year was 1996 under President Bill Clinton.

McCarthy was just another kick the can down the road sycophant. It's idiots like you who are the problem, not the Gaetz's who are real leaders.

87 posted on 10/04/2023 6:58:27 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: woodbutcher1963

I don’t and have not watched Faux in years.
I used to watch Tucker’s Show on YouTube.
But Faux ran him off too.


88 posted on 10/04/2023 6:58:50 AM PDT by tennmountainman (FUJB)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Did the Founding Fathers have everything thought out when they signed The Declaration of Independence?


89 posted on 10/04/2023 6:59:14 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: carcraft

McCarthy had a tough job.

No doubt but could have done a better job.

No success anywhere due to apparent working with the enemy.

As to plan and vision. Yours is no better than mine and time will tell.


90 posted on 10/04/2023 6:59:24 AM PDT by wita (Under oath since 1966 in defense of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness)
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To: PIF

As people see that there are some honest and courageous legislators on the right, people who risk personal attacks for taking a stand, people that put the lie to the fable that Congress works for America/Americans, the American people rather than seeing children see the birth of a rebellion against the corrupt elites that are feeding on America.

There are not many American that are going to support the current regime over increased accountability and nothing good was coming out of McCarthy’s speakership.


91 posted on 10/04/2023 6:59:47 AM PDT by JayGalt (A proud slave must be broken before the contagion spreads. Ever was it thus.)
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To: BlackAdderess
He’s a loose cannon /\ au contraire He's a hero A mighty RINO hunter ! R
92 posted on 10/04/2023 7:01:48 AM PDT by cuz1961 (USCGR Vet, John Adams Descendant , deal with it.)
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To: carcraft
I think he is a villain. You do not topple power if you do not have a plan and a vision. McCarthy had a tough job.

Why do we scream at each other? This is what it sounds like when RINOs cry.

93 posted on 10/04/2023 7:02:04 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: PIF
One poster actually said on here that governing no longer mattered.

2024 will be a bloodbath up and down the ticket

94 posted on 10/04/2023 7:03:50 AM PDT by hcmama
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To: cuz1961

That Arnold joked

” wait for my book “...

That’s weaselese for

I took a bribe hahaha.

Jmho.


95 posted on 10/04/2023 7:06:16 AM PDT by cuz1961 (USCGR Vet, John Adams Descendant , deal with it.)
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To: carcraft

I would usually agree but congress is so corrupt and the national situation so bad and existential that we are in a ‘we have to burn the village down to save it’ phase.


96 posted on 10/04/2023 7:07:26 AM PDT by Levy78 (Reject modernity, embrace tradition. )
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To: hcmama

No. I don’t agree. That is ridiculous.
Matt Gaetz did not expect to win because of the real chance the left would support McCarthy because he gave them everything they wanted. He did not conference with the left or promise them anything as did McCarthy.
Matt Gaetz spoke out against treachery after giving McCarthy notice & time to keep his promises. 8 Republicans followed their consciences rather than self interest and risked their jobs and reprisals to enforce accountability, inform the American people and in hopes of a speaker who would pursue America’s priorities vigorously.

He is not responsible for Dems choices and the Dems may come to regret those choices. Frankly it is hard to imagine a worse Speaker than McCarthy when measured by the results of his term.


97 posted on 10/04/2023 7:08:25 AM PDT by JayGalt (A proud slave must be broken before the contagion spreads. Ever was it thus.)
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To: BlackAdderess
He’s a loose cannon

Yea, but for now he’s our loose cannon. Exactly what the House needs! Read Sundance in case you forgot how the for the last 14 to 15 years We have been treated by our leaders....

98 posted on 10/04/2023 7:10:56 AM PDT by Lockbox (politicians, they all seemed like game show hosts to me.... Sting…)
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To: Right_in_Virginia

He went against the vast majority of his caucus and accused the Speaker of the House of plotting against him without offering proof.

I suspect that he may well have been conspired against, by the Democrats. McCarthy, for his part, agreed to let the threshold for vacating his seat be one member. Reportedly, that was at the behest of Nancy Pelosi (when the Freedom Caucus raised the issue). Reportedly, she said she would “have his back.” Of course she didn’t.

What it boils down to is that I think both McCarthy and Gaetz were played by the Democrats. If I am right, then I think we need to choose our representatives more carefully than we have.


99 posted on 10/04/2023 7:11:20 AM PDT by BlackAdderess (Haley 2024)
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To: randita

Oh I get it. It’s a trick question. Because St. McCarthy was just so wonderful and wise.


100 posted on 10/04/2023 7:12:10 AM PDT by Enterprise
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