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Russian Troops Cede Ground and Strike Back, Frustrating Ukraine’s Counteroffensive
NYT via Yahoo ^ | October 3rd, 2023 | Matthew Mpoke Bigg

Posted on 10/03/2023 4:51:05 PM PDT by Mariner

Across desolate fields and shattered villages, Ukraine’s counteroffensive is confronting Russian minefields and Russian soldiers dug into elaborate trench networks.

But one unusually daunting obstacle to Ukrainian troops is a tactic adopted by Russian forces: ceding ground and then striking back.

Rather than holding a line of trenches at all costs in the face of Ukraine’s assault, security experts say, Russian commanders have employed a long-standing military tactic known as “elastic defense.”

To execute the tactic, Russian forces pull back to a second line of positions, encouraging Ukrainian troops to advance, and then strike back when the opposing forces are vulnerable — either while moving across open ground or as they arrive at the recently abandoned Russian positions.

The goal is to prevent Ukrainian troops from actually securing a position and using it as a base for further advances. That is what Ukraine was able to do successfully in the village of Robotyne in the south, its biggest breakthrough in recent weeks.

“The defender gives ground while inflicting as heavy casualties as they can on the attackers with a view to being able to set the attackers up for a decisive counterattack,” said Ben Barry, a senior fellow for land war studies at the International Institute for Strategic Studies, a British research group.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ruzzia; ruzzians
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Russia gave 'em the bulge, and now they are just inflicting as many casualties as they can.

Ukraine will not retrieve those lost lands.

1 posted on 10/03/2023 4:51:05 PM PDT by Mariner
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To: Mariner

So the Russians are retreating. Good news.


2 posted on 10/03/2023 4:53:05 PM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: Mariner

You put your right foot in you put your right foot out...


3 posted on 10/03/2023 4:55:55 PM PDT by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERBODY'S BUSINESS-REMEMBER PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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To: Mariner

“To execute the tactic, Russian forces pull back to a second line of positions, encouraging Ukrainian troops to advance, and then strike back when the opposing forces are vulnerable — either while moving across open ground or as they arrive at the recently abandoned Russian positions.”

One would think that Ukraine would be wise to that after several months. But given that their army is now composed of Middle School kids and Geriatrics, I can see why this strategy continues to work.


4 posted on 10/03/2023 4:58:51 PM PDT by BobL (I own an F150 so that I can tow my boat all day Saturday and look Manly)
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now they are just inflicting as many casualties as they can.

The war of attrition is working for Russia. Ukraine is simply running out of warm male bodies to fight.

Ukraine sees surge of female fighters
https://abcnews.go.com/International/ukraine-sees-surge-female-fighters/story?id=96331526


5 posted on 10/03/2023 4:59:52 PM PDT by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: MeganC

You have zero comprehension.


6 posted on 10/03/2023 5:06:54 PM PDT by zek157
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To: Mariner

Stalemate. It's just like World War I.

7 posted on 10/03/2023 5:10:59 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: zek157

Dress it up however you want, the Orc army is in retreat.


8 posted on 10/03/2023 5:11:20 PM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: Mariner

That’s not what they said.


9 posted on 10/03/2023 5:11:38 PM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: Mariner

The Germans were famous for this during the Normandy campaign. They would fall back to a secondary position and have their old positions pre-registered for artillery and heavy machine guns.

CC


10 posted on 10/03/2023 5:14:05 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (My cats are more amusing than 200 channels worth of TV.)
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The Russian objective is to destroy the Ukrainian military, not gain territory. It is a war of attrition. Ukraine can’t win this kind of war.


11 posted on 10/03/2023 5:16:09 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Celtic Conservative

That tactic was a plot device in the movie 1917.


12 posted on 10/03/2023 5:17:12 PM PDT by 31R1O (The people who can control themselves ought to be able to defend themselves from those who can't.)
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To: kabar

“The Russian objective is to destroy the Ukrainian military, not gain territory. It is a war of attrition. Ukraine can’t win this kind of war.”

I don’t think the Russians expected that they’d also empty the Arsenals of the NATO countries, but a number of them are already admitting that they’re wiped out.


13 posted on 10/03/2023 5:17:31 PM PDT by BobL (I own an F150 so that I can tow my boat all day Saturday and look Manly)
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To: Mariner

Ukraine will soon conscript their Youth to fight Russians.
Eventually they will run out of warm Male bodies.
Then they will come for Zelensky.


14 posted on 10/03/2023 5:19:08 PM PDT by tennmountainman (FUJB)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Not quite a stalemate. Russia has more territory than it had before February 2022. And the four regions of the Donbas have had phony elections and been incorporated into Russia, just like Crimea.


15 posted on 10/03/2023 5:19:34 PM PDT by kabar
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To: BobL

The Russians made them pay for Robotino numerous times using these tactics.

The reason the Ukrainians keep doing this is because they can claim to be “gaining territory” and so get a PR win, even at the cost of colossal losses.


16 posted on 10/03/2023 5:21:25 PM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: Mariner

“It’s a trap!”


17 posted on 10/03/2023 5:24:49 PM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: Right_Wing_Madman

Question; if the pubs regain power and close the border, how many fighting age illegals wod go fight for Ukraine in exchange fir families being given papers to stay here and death benefits? Enough for Enough divisions to f*ck up Russia’s attrition advantage?


18 posted on 10/03/2023 5:27:35 PM PDT by desertsolitaire (w)
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To: Mariner

Getting closer to The Last Ukrainian Alive!


19 posted on 10/03/2023 5:30:08 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: kabar

What hole have you been hiding in? Russian state TV is pushing for a new empire with the western border in Berlin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqENT7ey0_M


20 posted on 10/03/2023 5:31:06 PM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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