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Army War College Report Predicts Mass Casualties in Near-Peer Fight Against [Russia] - Analysis
Substack ^ | Oct 2, 2022 | Simplicus the Thinker

Posted on 10/03/2023 8:04:12 AM PDT by Vlad0

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To: dfwgator
War with Russia means Civil War here, half the country will simply refuse to fight and will resist efforts to force them too.

You are keeping it real.

I would say 80% of Americans couldn't find Ukraine on a map. The conservatives/patriots who COULD find Ukraine on a map would be the first to refuse. And when TPTB tell the woke/gender-confused/overweight remainder, "you gotta sign up for a war over there" - they will get to the same reaction pretty quickly.

41 posted on 10/03/2023 9:43:54 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: RinaseaofDs

“Russia is big and flat. There’s nothing major geographically from stopping armor from rolling into Moscow, “


That’s why Russia won’t tolerate NATO on their current border. And why the new Russian border will either be the Dnieper or the old border of Galicia.


42 posted on 10/03/2023 9:47:49 AM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: srmanuel

The present war in Ukraine tells us that USA wonder-weapons would be depleted quite fast. The war would be sharp and short.

According to the Interweb, the USA produced 300,000 airplanes of all kinds for WWII. How many F-22s and F-35s do we have? A few hundred? How many factories do we have producing them? Parts?


43 posted on 10/03/2023 9:50:16 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: Vlad0

True. But it’ll go nuclear quickly. No way we will fight a conventional war with the Russians, the Chinese or the North Koreans. So war games are a waste of time if it does not involve the use of nuclear weapons.


44 posted on 10/03/2023 9:52:37 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: steve86

99.7% of jabbed Americans are alive and functioning as usual.


45 posted on 10/03/2023 9:54:12 AM PDT by entropy12 (Career politicians like Desantis build wealth. Trump sacrificed his wealth to serve people. GO TRUMP)
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To: MinorityRepublican
BINGO!
46 posted on 10/03/2023 9:54:59 AM PDT by entropy12 (Career politicians like Desantis build wealth. Trump sacrificed his wealth to serve people. GO TRUMP)
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To: pierrem15

Exactly right. The military analysis is secondary to the political analysis.

Using lawfare against your political opponent, imprisoning J6 people, going after Catholics, arresting anti-abortion protestors, labeling a hate crime any bad words said to trannies, harassing parents at school board meetings, killing Craig Robertson in Provo, Utah — the totality of all that is meant to do one thing and one thing only — tell us that we no longer have representative government responsive to the people. The Deep State controls all; dare go against the DS and you will be squashed like a bug.

Organizing mass resistance against that is almost impossible with today’s massive surveillance state.


47 posted on 10/03/2023 9:55:22 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“Occupy your mind with good thoughts or your enemy will fill them with bad ones.” ~ Thomas More)
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To: Vlad0

50% of those F35 A/B are not operational at any time. Months for parts, low ammo, only Marines can meet requirement goals, Trump inherited a 10% frontline-ready Military. After FJB turned it Tranny they can’t be sent to the front line, they are dependent on medications. The same goes for anyone on daily meds. Especially heart meds. NO OIL, in the SOS. Ukraine has our weapons.

Troops plagued by filthy conditions, squatters in military barracks: report
PHOTOS/VIDEO.

Investigators from the GAO visited 12 unnamed military installations to compile the report and spoke with service members in discussion groups to gain their perspectives. Many service members complained of dirty water that was seemingly unsafe to drink in their barracks buildings. Others complained of broken air conditioning and heating systems, forcing many members to purchase individual air conditioning units for their sweltering rooms or turn to unsafe space heaters to provide warmth in the colder months. Another issue noted by investigators was that some buildings lacked secure windows and doors that have in some cases led to squatters occupying the rooms.

In one extreme case, officials at one installation told GAO investigators that “service members are responsible for cleaning biological waste that may remain in a barracks room after a suicide.”

The GAO report included dozens of photos of military barracks buildings from the installations investigators visited, with the photos showing restrooms with sewage overflowing, cracked sewage pipes, water damage, pests and mold or mildew growth. Other photos showed the possessions belonging to apparent squatters who were not authorized to be living in the buildings.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/troops-plagued-filthy-conditions-squatter-military-barracks

UNIFORM SHORTAGES: REPORT: U.S. Marines Struggling With a Shortage of Camouflage Uniforms

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/09/report-u-s-marines-struggling-shortage-camouflage-uniforms/?utm_source=Email&utm_medium=the-gateway-pundit&utm_campaign=dailyam&utm_content=2023-10-01


48 posted on 10/03/2023 9:55:26 AM PDT by GailA (GMOs have a new name 'BIOENGINEERED' read labels. Constitutional Conservative.)
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To: pierrem15
The techniques you mention will be almost impossible to enforce in the red states, where the greatest antiwar resistance is likely. The Federal government simply lacks the numbers to enforce a draft without the assistance of state and local authorities. In 2020, the few excursions that Antifa and BLM made into rural areas were met by unfriendly police and hundreds of well armed locals. Debanking is not an option when the managers of money center bank branches recognize that they will lose customers to local or regional banks and credit unions. With massive resistance in red areas, the military would be forced to pull recruits from upper middle income whites and ethnic minorities, the bases of the Democratic Party. That will not please the war hawk constituents.

We have not covered other issues, particularly the poor physical and mental shape of a majority of potential recruits. You would need six months at the equivalent of fat farms to have them lose weight and detoxify before you sent them to basic training. We had a draft up and running for over a year before Pearl Harbor but it wasn't until mid-1942 that American forces were available in the European theater. I doubt that China and Russia will wait for our prolonged training needs.

The draft is off the table for these and other reasons.

49 posted on 10/03/2023 9:55:40 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: dfwgator

“Madeleine Albright’s infamous words to Colin Powell, “What’s the point of having this superb military you’re always talking about if we can’t use it?””

I started questioning just what we were up to when we bombed the Serbs in Crotia and Bosnia. In that case, I was really struggling to see what threat they posed to the US or Europe - after all, it’s only a few million of them, so they’re not about to be taking over the world.

Before that, I was ALL USA, as I suspect like most here were during the Cold War (other than the Operatives).

Then Kosovo, and of all media outlets, the Los Angeles Times had a reporter in Belgrade trying to link what we were saying about Serbia, versus the facts on the ground. He showed that we were being TOTALLY PLAYED (and still are, for that matter, regarding Kosovo), and that’s when I lost all faith in our foreign policy.

Afghanistan, it was cool to go in due to 9/11...but spend 20 YEARS there, no thanks. Iraq (after 9/11), well Hussain was a dick, and wouldn’t let us inspect his weapons...at least that’s what I was told at the time, but now I hear other opinions on what was going on there.

And then, obviously, Ukraine. The Neocons figure they can use Ukraine to isolate and squeeze Russia, a country that hadn’t even threatened anyone (at least prior to being lied to regarding NATO expansion)...and Russia doesn’t like to be squeezed (not sure if we would like it either), and so I’m supposed to be worked up about Russia when the people with the same mindset of Albright started the war? Like hell.


50 posted on 10/03/2023 9:56:18 AM PDT by BobL (I own an F150 so that I can tow my boat all day Saturday and look Manly)
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To: pierrem15; All

Doing a draft or not is irrelevant.

The US no longer has the industrial base to equip hundreds of thousands or millions of draftees.

(The Marine Corp can’t even currently obtain current camo pattern uniforms)


51 posted on 10/03/2023 9:56:26 AM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: PGR88

From December 7, 1941 to September 2, 1945, less than 4 years after Pearl Harbor, the USA produced a mind boggling number of everything a military needs to fight a two front world war.

Today, it seems, we can’t get a plane in the air for less than a hundred million.

Throw in the obvious deterioration of the force due to going woke and you have a recipe for a real disaster.


52 posted on 10/03/2023 9:56:45 AM PDT by srmanuel
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To: BobL

Yep, Kosovo was a turning point for me as well.

I should have had the very same misgivings about the Gulf War at the time, but then I used to believe the “Rs” were the White Hats.


53 posted on 10/03/2023 9:57:40 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: srmanuel

“You’re probably right but the death of 5000 American Soldiers with no end in sight to the carnage would illicit some sort of reaction”


Uh, the paper estimated US causalties at 3000+ PER DAY.


54 posted on 10/03/2023 9:58:19 AM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: Saintgermain

” the public is complacent and asleep at the job”

That is especially worrisome with Manchurian Biden. The blatant bribery and him doing the bidding of China without much of the populace waking up is really bad. Of course, you can lay that at the feet of the DNC-owned, state-run media.


55 posted on 10/03/2023 9:58:38 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“Occupy your mind with good thoughts or your enemy will fill them with bad ones.” ~ Thomas More)
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To: Vlad0
This country is being marched, paraded and cajoled into going to war with Russia because our President is being blackmailed by a foreign leader that has crushed political opponents, shut down churches and bought lavish safe houses with US money.

This “war” is leading to this country’s demise, there are no peacemakers, the hawks rule now.
56 posted on 10/03/2023 9:59:33 AM PDT by The Louiswu (Pray for Peace in the world.)
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To: Sequoyah101

“they don’t have satellite counter battery fire and a few other things the Russians do have and the chicoms.”

At least they didn’t before we gifted them $50 billion in armaments and a billion dollar airbase when we skedaddled out of Afghanistan.


57 posted on 10/03/2023 9:59:49 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“Occupy your mind with good thoughts or your enemy will fill them with bad ones.” ~ Thomas More)
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To: dfwgator

They will have to draft, and that means 18-year-old girls too. They wanted equality, that is part of it. They should have to register just as my 21-year-old grandson did at 18. And he’s too fat to make basics.


58 posted on 10/03/2023 10:00:09 AM PDT by GailA (GMOs have a new name 'BIOENGINEERED' read labels. Constitutional Conservative.)
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To: srmanuel

We also still have our manufacturing base to easily convert factories into making planes, and tanks. And that actually started well before Pearl Harbor, to aid Britain.

We’ve given away our manufacturing base to our enemies.


59 posted on 10/03/2023 10:00:48 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: BobL; pierrem15

Land artillery causes 70 % of casualties in a peer war.

But Rumsfeld wanted to get rid of artillery because it was “obsolete”.


60 posted on 10/03/2023 10:00:55 AM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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