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The judge’s interpretation of the value of Trump enterprise is incorrect. He is not in the position to determine value.
1 posted on 09/27/2023 1:37:51 PM PDT by Macho MAGA Man
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This is just the standard partisan lawfare.

Who’s the victim? Who was defrauded? The banks? They’re sophisticated parties who don’t rely on the word of someone how much their assets are worth when deciding to make a loan. They do their own research. And those loans were paid back anyway.

And how do you value a brand? There is no objective way to do so and people disagree all the time. Real Estate companies/developers are forever saying their assets have one value while somebody else values them differently. Are they all committing fraud now? How do you prove that? Each piece of real estate is unique and brands are unique.

That this Democrat hack would claim Mar a Lago was only worth $18 million tells you all you need to know. That alone gives the game away entirely - Even if Letitia James had not explicitly campaigned on “get Trump at all costs” which she did.

1. Trump has a million strong appeals to this ruling.
2. Most of his assets by far are not in New York - he moved those out a long time ago.
3. NY trying to enforce this would have to go to other states and any claim they would make would be fiercely contested by Trump’s legal team....even if this weren’t an obvious lawfare sham which everybody knows it is.


28 posted on 09/27/2023 2:07:50 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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I don’t know if it would be possible, but Trump’s lawyers should refer both the judge and the DA to a judicial ethics commission and/or lawyer’s board of ethics. This stinks and Trump would probably be able to come up with expert appraisers to counter this retarded ruling.


29 posted on 09/27/2023 2:08:50 PM PDT by Enterprise
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If a judge can give a fair valuation of real estate, but only a biologist can determine if someone is a man or a woman ... you might be a Democrat.


30 posted on 09/27/2023 2:09:17 PM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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I think someone needs to investigate what the tax valuation is for his property would be anywhere in NY. Furthermore, there must be some corrupt tax valuations in NY for the favored few.


33 posted on 09/27/2023 2:16:45 PM PDT by Jumper
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Who knew judges were able to make retroactive financial valuation judgements on private deals between private parties?

Even when NONE of the parties involved had brought suit, none claimed fraud, and none even complained.


35 posted on 09/27/2023 2:17:08 PM PDT by PGR88
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Arthur F. Engoron: Lawyer, judge, real estate appraiser.


37 posted on 09/27/2023 2:17:20 PM PDT by KevinB (Word for the day: "kakistocracy" - a society governed by its least suitable or competent citizens)
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Indeed. Valuing Mar-A-Lago at $18mn is utterly absurd.

THIS is an example what $18mn actually buys you in Palm Beach...
https://www.redfin.com/FL/Palm-Beach/449-Australian-Ave-33480/home/42437863


39 posted on 09/27/2023 2:19:50 PM PDT by irishjuggler
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Possibly a dumb question.... Who is the victim in this fraud case?


41 posted on 09/27/2023 2:20:18 PM PDT by qaz123
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evaluated the worth of Trump’s prized Mar-a-Lago Club resort at $18 million, ruling that the property was inflated by 2,300%.

How much did Limbaugh’s wife sell his house for?


47 posted on 09/27/2023 2:24:06 PM PDT by qaz123
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The judge

Watch me pull a number out of my hat

He is not in the position to determine value.
Indeed


48 posted on 09/27/2023 2:26:36 PM PDT by Vaduz (....)
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The judges must have been paid big bucks by Dem supporters to make their rulings regarding Real Estate Appraisals. They are not qualified and will lose on appeal.


50 posted on 09/27/2023 2:30:05 PM PDT by chopperk
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Find out the insurable values for the properties. That should set the upper limits.


51 posted on 09/27/2023 2:31:23 PM PDT by Mashood
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In my county, anyone can do a property search and see what the county values a property at for taxing purposes. I bet the Judge can ask Palm Beach County what they put for a value.


52 posted on 09/27/2023 2:31:46 PM PDT by skr (Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people. - Proverbs 14:34)
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Has the STATE Filed Criminal Charges against this Judge for Issuing a “Real Estate” appraisal without being LICENSED by the State to do so?”:??

https://dos.ny.gov/system/files/documents/2022/03/re-appraiser-3-21.pdf


54 posted on 09/27/2023 2:32:46 PM PDT by eyeamok
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$18 million wouldn’t cover the cost of the china, silver, glass and linens. The Big Four of Hotels.


55 posted on 09/27/2023 2:33:13 PM PDT by Fledermaus (It's time to get rid of the Three McStooges; Mitch, Kevin and Ronna!)
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For a comp, Rush Limbaugh’s estate which is up the street from Mar a Lago sold this year for $155 million and was not as grand as Mar a Lago. $500 million is a good estimate.


59 posted on 09/27/2023 2:36:01 PM PDT by growingpains
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There is only one solution at hand. It does not including living with these commies.


60 posted on 09/27/2023 2:36:34 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (Vacate the chair. Shutter the government until it can be correctly defunded.)
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Are real estate taxes public in FL? I’d be surprised if Trump is paying tax based on the Judges 18 million valuation...


62 posted on 09/27/2023 2:38:06 PM PDT by Driver32 (I like airplane noise)
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Unauthorized Practice of a Profession: NY ED Law 6512

You need not be a surgeon performing procedures nor an account engaged in financial services. Whether you are a dentist, masseuse, physician, lawyer, financial advisor, architect, or even a hairdresser, if you practice and engage in a profession requiring a license without that license, then you are subject to arrest and prosecution for Unauthorized Practice, New York Education Law 6512. In fact, not only will you find yourself before a judge and in need of legal representation from a criminal defense lawyer, know that this offense is a felony. Whether facing an indictment in New York City, the Hudson Valley counties of Westchester, Rockland, Putnam, or elsewhere in the state, a failure to protect yourself will have dire and permanent consequences.


63 posted on 09/27/2023 2:43:08 PM PDT by eyeamok
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“Heis not in a position to determine value.”

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Correct. And thus, one more reason it will be overturned on appeal.

What this judge and the DAs in New York and Georgia don’t realize is that all of their illegal antics are only making Trump more popular with minorities and increasing his chances of winning in a landslide of Reagan proportions.


66 posted on 09/27/2023 2:44:43 PM PDT by Murder of Crows
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