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To: oil_dude

“Ukraine is a Nazi nation. Thats where the Nazis and SS fled to after fall of Berlin.”

The Ukraine as it was called, was a Nazi collaborator state during World War Two and The Holocaust. But it was part of the Soviet Union both before and after the war, run by Khrushchev and overseen by Stalin and the Kremlin. The Red Army presence there was enormous.


21 posted on 09/27/2023 11:07:34 AM PDT by Luke21
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To: Luke21; oil_dude

>> But it was part of the Soviet Union both before and after
>> the war, run by Khrushchev and overseen by Stalin and the
>> Kremlin. The Red Army presence there was enormous.

The original poster needs to get their geography right. Any surviving SS/Nazis took flight as far away from the Soviet Union as possible. Some ended up in the Middle East, serving as advisors to Syria and Egypt against Israel. Some went to Latin America.

Not only the Red Army, but it was chock full of Stalins NKVD/MGB secret police, who carried on their brutal repression as well as hunting down any surviving Nazi collaborators.

The Ukraine did not exist as a sovereign state after 1920 or so, when it was absorbed into the USSR. The Western Ukraine was part of Poland and was annexed by the USSR in 1939 when they invaded Poland.

We like to see history as black and white, good guys vs. bad but it is not. The fact that USSR fought and hunted down Nazis does not excuse or whitewash the horrors and crimes of Stalinism and Communistm.

The fact that anti-Communist Ukrainians like OUN-UPA, or this Hunka guy fought the Soviets and were co-belligierents with the Nazis does not excuse or whitewash any role they may have played in the mass murder of Jews, Poles, etc.


22 posted on 09/27/2023 11:47:51 AM PDT by JadeEmperor
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