Posted on 09/26/2023 8:41:49 PM PDT by Navy Patriot
Poland may attempt to extradite the 98-year-old former soldier who fought for the Nazis during World War II and was accidentally honored by Canada's parliament last week, the CBC reports.
Canadian Speaker of the House of Commons, Anthony Rota, introduced Yaroslav Hunka following Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy's address to parliament. Rota referred to Hunka as a "Ukrainian hero and a Canadian hero," and said, "we thank him for his service."
Media outlets later reported that Hunka fought for the Nazi military unit known as the Waffen-SS Galicia Division, and Rota apologized for his remarks and for inviting Hunka, who lives in Canada and is a constituent of Rota's.
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“The people who go along with this nonsense are likely cancel culture liberal Karens.”
Nah they’re just people who rightly show no quarter to the enemy. Playing nice and tolerating evil is the reason our country is fucked.
I’m for it.
He fought against the very communists that were responsible for the holodomor.
He allied with the fascists in order to fight against the communists, that were in fact responsible for a famine in his country that killed as many Ukrainians as Hitler killed Jews..
What would YOU do, keyboard warrior?
See my # 25.
“The revitalized Banderite movement is fully integrated in Ukraine’s political power structure. It was only a matter of time before there was an incident like this. And I’m not totally surprised it happened in Canada either. Look at some of the Canadians on this site for example.”
Banderites? What’s their share of the Ukraine government? Any ministers? Any seats in the Parliament? I’m not pro-Ukraine by any means but I dislike people coming on our forum using Democrat tactics. I think there are a couple Canadians posting here but I’m pretty sure they’re not Nazis.
Agree completely.
Canada is currently in a dustup with the Gov’t of India over sheltering Khalistan (Sikh) terrorists and organizers.
The accusation is that the Indian gov’t got fed up with Canadian inaction and did an assassination themselves.
Of course, every @sshole politician in Canada is huffing and puffing about “state sponsored assassination, and “how dare they”.
(the Indians should have done a drone strike like Obama and Biden. That’s how you do woke approved assassinations).
These posturing fakes are all about deporting 98 year olds, but current terrorists are politically protected.
In no manner, do I claim to have all the answers. I am not worthy of such self delusion. Depending on the circumstances and geography of ones birth, during the WW2 era, one could have been presented with very few choices on how to live your life. I would like to believe I would have made the “right” choices and for honorable reasons. I have no idea what decisions I would have made, had I been alive then and in an active war zone. It is easy for us to make judgement 70 years later, based on linear logic.
I read a very short novel about WW1 that was quite powerful.
It was called “All Quiet On The Western Front”.
I recommend it to get a brief glimpse of what life was like for an enlisted man during that struggle.
>> He fought against the very communists that were responsible for the holodomor. He allied with the fascists in order to fight against the communists, that were in fact responsible for a famine in his country that killed as many Ukrainians as Hitler killed Jews.. <<
Yes, good point. It’s understandable and perhaps entirely excusable that the Ukrainians would ally themselves with the Nazis. A young man of military age would be in a situation in which he had to choose one bad side or the other. The oppression Ukrainians were most familiar with was their own at the hands of the Communists. Wikipedia says, “In 1944, Hunka was deployed into combat against Red Army forces on the Eastern Front of World War II.” No evidence has been cited that Hunka himself committed atrocities.
What’s the point? What?
How about he served Hitler?
Try Trudeau and his Canadian government I mean dictatorship gave him a standing ovation and have no remorse. Just excuses
When I lived in Germany there was a former ss officer in the neighborhood. Everyone knew who he was and what he did
What’s the point? Really.
Also it’s not clear whether the soldier (as a teenager to young adult in 1940s) lived in Ukraine or in Canada, as Ukrainians flocked into Canada as early as the 1905 troubles and again during and after WW-I, and a few certainly went back to Ukraine to fight Stalin’s Red Army given that opportunity. We cannot easily know how informed they may or may not have been about their new friends from Germany. They were probably motivated by anti-communist sentiments, some may also have been fascists. Europe was not short of fascists or communists in 1941. Even after they killed each other in large numbers, there still are a lot. What irks me is that progressives see only one side as evil. I’m not sure this guy Poland wants to extradite knew a lot about what the Nazis were about, at least not until after it was too late to leave the unit. And it is unseemly to want to put a 98-year old on trial. Let God deal with it.
Shrug! This was 79 years ago. He was a young man caught up in the throws of a world war.
Situation is more: Progressives in Canada wanting to get rid of a Public Relations problem and getting (coercing) Poland to take that off their hands.
Within limitations of the Internet, nothing places Yaroslav Hunka in military service active in Poland, nor in the Second Polish Republic territory, nor in Ukraine.
History of the formation of the 14th Waffen SS aka 1st Galacian division is online - its development and formation (1943), its initial deployment in the winter of 1944, and major combat, about 30% surviving Russian attacks during the summer of 1944, may be studied.
The division was reformed in the second half of the 1944 summer, followed by service in Slovakia, Slovenia, and Austria.
Yaroslav Hunka volunteered to join up, in 1944, when he was 18-19 years old.
Survivors - captured by American and British troops, were handed over to Polish military authority and operations in Italy.
War crimes investigations followed, there, and under Allied Authority, and for the Nuremburg Trials, and by Canada - and again by Canada in 1985.
At: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/14th_Waffen_Grenadier_Division_of_the_SS_(1st_Galician)
Scroll down to "Atrocities" - EXCERPT:
Although the Waffen-SS as a whole was declared to be a criminal organization at the Nuremberg Trials, the Galician Division has not specifically been found guilty of any war crimes by any war tribunal or commission. However, numerous accusations of impropriety have been leveled at the division, and at particular members of the division, from a variety of sources. It is difficult to determine the extent of war criminality among members of the division.
If prior service in Nazi police units is a measure of criminality, only a small number were recruited from established police detachments. Among those who had transferred from police detachments, some had been members of a coastal defence unit that had been stationed in France, while others came from two police battalions that had been formed in the spring of 1943, too late to have participated in the murder of Ukraine's Jews.
Only three kinds of soldiers in WW2 Ukraine...
Communists, Nazis, and Deserters.
I've never seen it summed up so succinctly. Well done!
“Winter for Poland and France!’’
A report on CTH says he trained as an anti-aircraft gunner. Not likely he committed any atrocities unless shooting down Communists fits that category. IMHO it makes him the hero they lauded him as.
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