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To: canuck_conservative

There is no historical basis for solidarity between Poles and Ukrainians. Quite the opposite, Ukrainians were oppressed serfs working on Polish estates.


49 posted on 09/23/2023 10:07:28 AM PDT by FarCenter (https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/aircraft-glitch-delays-canada-pm-trudeaus-departure-india-202)
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To: FarCenter
There is no historical basis for solidarity between Poles and Ukrainians

not true

they were both treated like crap for many years under the old evil Soviet Union

and they're both threatened now by Russia


50 posted on 09/23/2023 10:11:16 AM PDT by canuck_conservative (there would be no more need for NATO, if Russia could just stop attacking its neighbors)
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To: FarCenter

Ukrainian, Belarusian, and Lithuanian nobles became polonized over centuries, just as further west Polish, Czech, Croatian, and Slovenian nobles became Germanized or Austrianized. For most of the peasants, the conflict with the nobles as overlords was more important than the ethnic differences that developed later. Many peasants just thought of themselves as “people from here” until ideologues and propagandists gave them national consciousness.

The basis for solidarity now would be being stuck between the Russians and the Germans (the West).


58 posted on 09/23/2023 10:40:38 AM PDT by x
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