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Never ‘insult Poles again,’ Poland’s prime minister tells Ukraine’s Zelensky
cnn ^ | 9-23-23 | Maija Ehlinger and Mariya Knight

Posted on 09/23/2023 7:52:16 AM PDT by dynachrome

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To: dynachrome

Once Zelensky has been lynched and his fascist government collapses, all the border countries will rush in to divvy up the remains of the land once known as Ukraine. Thereafter, like Czechoslovakia, or Yugoslavia… only a memory in the history books.


41 posted on 09/23/2023 9:41:45 AM PDT by CapandBall
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To: TheWriterTX

That, and the Polish cavalry charged the tanks on horseback.

You go to war with the army you want, when war comes to you you fight with the army you have.


42 posted on 09/23/2023 9:43:50 AM PDT by null and void ( Fall Is Here: Pumpkin Spice-Scented Children Presented To Joe Biden)
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To: DesertRhino
What’sa Polish girl get on her wedding night that’s long and hard?

;O) I saw that one too. A lot of bandwidth could get eaten up on this subject. The jokes that is.

43 posted on 09/23/2023 9:47:48 AM PDT by Bounced2X (Boomer - I survived childhood with no bike helmet.)
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To: TheWriterTX

They put on a good act.


44 posted on 09/23/2023 9:49:57 AM PDT by Wilderness Conservative (Nature is the ultimate conservative)
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To: CapandBall
Once Zelensky has been lynched and his fascist government collapses

It wouldn't surprise me if he got the Mussolini treatment.

45 posted on 09/23/2023 9:50:38 AM PDT by Bounced2X (Boomer - I survived childhood with no bike helmet.)
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To: Bounced2X

The souls of half a million Ukrainian soldiers deserve some retribution.


46 posted on 09/23/2023 9:54:57 AM PDT by CapandBall
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To: dynachrome

Poland and Russia ganging up on Ukraine? Strange days we live in.


47 posted on 09/23/2023 9:59:08 AM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: dynachrome

They remember Wołyń.


48 posted on 09/23/2023 10:06:55 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: canuck_conservative

There is no historical basis for solidarity between Poles and Ukrainians. Quite the opposite, Ukrainians were oppressed serfs working on Polish estates.


49 posted on 09/23/2023 10:07:28 AM PDT by FarCenter (https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/aircraft-glitch-delays-canada-pm-trudeaus-departure-india-202)
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To: FarCenter
There is no historical basis for solidarity between Poles and Ukrainians

not true

they were both treated like crap for many years under the old evil Soviet Union

and they're both threatened now by Russia


50 posted on 09/23/2023 10:11:16 AM PDT by canuck_conservative (there would be no more need for NATO, if Russia could just stop attacking its neighbors)
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To: null and void

If you want to wind up a Pole of a certain age, there is no more reliable means than quoting the old myth about Polish lancers charging at German panzer divisions in the second world war.

The story feeds a stereotype about Polish men being hopelessly romantic, hopelessly moustachioed idiots who would actually gallop their horses at big steel tanks.

Even this newspaper fell into the trap less than two years ago, when a columnist described the mythical charge as “the most romantic and idiotic act of suicide of modern war”. We had to append a speedy correction admitting that we had “repeated a myth of the second world war, fostered by Nazi propagandists”.

The most likely origin of the legend is a skirmish at the Pomeranian village of Krojanty on the first day of the German invasion, 1 September 1939. Polish lancers, whose units had still not been motorised, did indeed charge a Wehrmacht infantry battalion but were forced to retreat under heavy machine gun fire. By the time German and Italian war correspondents got there, some tanks had arrived and they joined the dots themselves.

The story was used first by the Nazi propaganda machine and then by its Soviet counterpart, to portray Polish officers (who were killed by Stalin en masse the next year) as absurdly careless about the lives of their troops.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/apr/06/myth-of-polish-cavalry-charge


51 posted on 09/23/2023 10:11:28 AM PDT by FarCenter (https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/aircraft-glitch-delays-canada-pm-trudeaus-departure-india-202)
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To: CapandBall
The souls of half a million Ukrainian soldiers deserve some retribution.

Now that I'm thinking about it Mussolini's old lady got to participate in that event as well.
She was probably a shopper too.

52 posted on 09/23/2023 10:12:00 AM PDT by Bounced2X (Boomer - I survived childhood with no bike helmet.)
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To: canuck_conservative

Poland is not threatened by Russia.

Considering that Russia had no luck attacking Ukraine, Russia would be completely impotent against Nato-allied Poland.


53 posted on 09/23/2023 10:21:12 AM PDT by FarCenter (https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/aircraft-glitch-delays-canada-pm-trudeaus-departure-india-202)
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To: FarCenter
If you want to wind up a Pole of a certain age, there is no more reliable means than quoting the old myth about Polish lancers charging at German panzer divisions in the second world war.

That, and saying that Poland is in "Eastern Europe". Big No No!

54 posted on 09/23/2023 10:21:40 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Salman

Poland doesn’t want do that because they know then the next thing that happens, the Germans will be demanding Breslau and Danzig.

Better just to keep things where they are, and not open up that can of worms.


55 posted on 09/23/2023 10:27:16 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: McGruff
Poland and Russia ganging up on Ukraine? Strange days we live in.

Politics is the mother of strange bedfellows...

56 posted on 09/23/2023 10:35:55 AM PDT by null and void ( Fall Is Here: Pumpkin Spice-Scented Children Presented To Joe Biden)
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To: null and void

Just more like everybody just wants this over and for the killing to end.


57 posted on 09/23/2023 10:37:24 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: FarCenter

Ukrainian, Belarusian, and Lithuanian nobles became polonized over centuries, just as further west Polish, Czech, Croatian, and Slovenian nobles became Germanized or Austrianized. For most of the peasants, the conflict with the nobles as overlords was more important than the ethnic differences that developed later. Many peasants just thought of themselves as “people from here” until ideologues and propagandists gave them national consciousness.

The basis for solidarity now would be being stuck between the Russians and the Germans (the West).


58 posted on 09/23/2023 10:40:38 AM PDT by x
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To: FarCenter

Poland has been threatened by Russia for about 1,000 years. And by Germany on the other side.


59 posted on 09/23/2023 10:47:57 AM PDT by Bernard ("No matter where you go, there you are." (Buckaroo Banzai))
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To: FarCenter
The history of warfare is rich with brave men doing incredible things against impossible odds.

I had no reason to not believe the Poles were as brave as the Russian soldiers who strapped explosives to themselves and dove under Nazi tanks at Stalingrad.

Or...

How a soldier who feared he missed the war went on to earn the MoH

60 posted on 09/23/2023 11:06:50 AM PDT by null and void ( Fall Is Here: Pumpkin Spice-Scented Children Presented To Joe Biden)
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