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OP-ED: The Federal Government Should Not Be Held Hostage for Ukraine Funding
The American Conservative ^ | Sep 20, 2023 | Sen. Rand Paul

Posted on 09/22/2023 10:47:23 AM PDT by RandFan

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I'm amazed at what's going on. Ukraine funding appears sacrosanct even above the needs of the people!
1 posted on 09/22/2023 10:47:23 AM PDT by RandFan
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Very nicely said.


2 posted on 09/22/2023 10:49:31 AM PDT by MarMema (Eat your bananas, enjoy the decline)
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I wonder if the Ukes have added Rand to their kill list now.ll


3 posted on 09/22/2023 10:55:17 AM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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"Ukraine funding appears sacrosanct even above the needs of the people!"

Which usually is an indicator that its not just politicians with their hands in the cookie jar, but other government apparatus (Truman's great regret I'll bet) that must have a large interest there.

4 posted on 09/22/2023 10:56:03 AM PDT by Tench_Coxe (The woke were surprised by the reaction to the Bud Light fiasco. May there be many more surprises)
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That should be spread far and wide. It is fully the truth.


5 posted on 09/22/2023 10:58:03 AM PDT by dforest
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if there is a government shutdown, we should be honest and call it the “Ukraine spending shutdown”

the media will want to blame a group of politicians for it, but this is the issue that separates the two sides.


6 posted on 09/22/2023 10:59:37 AM PDT by ChronicMA
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cnn.com

Zelensky’s mixed reception in Washington may be a taste of political storm to come
Analysis by Stephen Collinson, CNN
Updated Thu September 21, 2023

The blue-and-gold flag draped hero worship of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky’s last Washington trip, which stirred comparisons to Winston Churchill’s wartime stand against Nazism, was a distant memory on Thursday.

Nine months later, Zelensky was back in town and he and his hosts learned some jarring lessons about one another at a moment when a path to ultimate victory in the war against Russia seems increasingly distant.

Zelensky got an abrupt preview of how Donald Trump’s possible return to power after the 2024 election and how the ex-president’s current sway over the ungovernable Republican-led House of Representatives could rupture the multi-billion dollar lifeline on which Ukraine’s survival depends.

And far from clearing a new $24 billion administration request to sustain Ukraine’s war effort, the chaotic House failed again Thursday to even fund the defense of the United States, as a new attempt to pass a military appropriations bill foundered against hard-right opposition.

For their part, Americans glimpsed the sapping impact of a brutal war on a leader who rallied stunning resistance to a Russian invasion but also shoulders the burden of months of death and sacrifice forced upon his people. At times, the comic actor turned wartime hero looked exhausted and unsmiling. In a CNN interview, he confessed the personal strain of his furtive life as Russia’s top target.

And in public appearances, Zelensky’s patience sometimes frayed – especially when berating the United Nations for failing to protect its members from aggression. In a US capital that has undergone an ideological shift since he was last here just before Christmas 2022, it now takes more than quoting President Franklin Roosevelt and drawing allusions to 9/11, to woo lawmakers.

There’s also a question of whether Zelensky’s relentless efforts to shame the world into action might be reaching the point of diminishing returns. The pugnacious president might think so too judging by his multiple and poignant expressions of gratitude for previous help as polls show more Americans are skeptical of aid to Ukraine.

He may need to develop new political skills to adapt to a vicious phase in American politics when Ukraine is being dragged into an impeachment saga for the second time and is a central general election issue.

Zelensky’s trip to the United States – whose democracy, while battered, is still a bulwark of free political systems around the world – was a mirror image of another journey made by Russian President Vladimir Putin last week to restock his own arsenal in a meeting with North Korean tyrant Kim Jong Un in Russia’s Far East.

A warm welcome in the Oval Office
Biden did his best to assure Zelensky of US constancy.

“Mr. President, the brave people in Ukraine, and that’s not hyperbole, the people of Ukraine have shown an enormous bravery, enormous bravery,” Biden told Zelensky in the Oval Office. “Together with our partners and allies, the American people are determined to see to all we can to ensure the world stands with you.”

Zelensky profusely thanked Biden for America’s support to “combat Russian terrorism.” And he also thanked the people of Poland after the government in Warsaw said it would stop arming Ukraine after a dispute over Ukrainian grain imports.

Analysts in the US and Ukraine said the move was bound up in political tensions ahead of Poland’s approaching election, and probably didn’t augur a long-term rupture between the allies.

Biden unveiled yet another US aid package for Ukraine worth $325 million that was expected to include more cluster munitions and air defense equipment, according to two US officials, marking the second time the US has provided the controversial weapon to Kyiv.

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7 posted on 09/22/2023 11:01:15 AM PDT by Liz ( 2024 Dems will have the same guy with the same team around him, just older.)
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“I’m amazed at what’s going on. Ukraine funding appears sacrosanct even above the needs of the people!”

Nonsense!!! Why are so-called “Conservatives” so zealously willing to stop a staop gap funding measure over moeny for Ukraine possibly in it, and extremely less willing to prevent a stop gap funding measure than continues most of Biden’s $trillions in extra and totally unnecessay spending. In terms of sheer dollars and what is really wrong in the federal spending Biden’s programs and spending are a much more egregious issue than the funding for Ukraine. Focusing on Ukraine more than Biden’s overall spending is a populist diversion, not the ultimate national importance.


8 posted on 09/22/2023 11:02:12 AM PDT by Wuli
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Biden pledges another $24 billion US tax dollars to Zelensky.

“And I'll put $10 billion in an offshore account for you, Joe, just like Hunter told me to.”

9 posted on 09/22/2023 11:04:26 AM PDT by Liz ( 2024 Dems will have the same guy with the same team around him, just older.)
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Actually it is true. But Ukraine funding is obvious to all people and shows the hypocrisy of the elitists.

Quit overthinking this.


10 posted on 09/22/2023 11:22:42 AM PDT by dforest
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“But Ukraine funding is obvious to all people and shows the hypocrisy of the elitists.”

ROFWL!!!!!

Bidens multi$trllions in spending shows the “hypocrisy of the elitists” far more obviously and far more massively. Ant-Ukraine defense is merely more populist at the moment, and many populists have managed to get themselves elected as “Conservatives”.


11 posted on 09/22/2023 11:28:39 AM PDT by Wuli
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Anyone think Ukraine is blackmailing Biden after bribing him?


12 posted on 09/22/2023 11:54:03 AM PDT by JohnnyP (Thinking is hard work (I stole that from Rush).)
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LOL!
13 posted on 09/22/2023 1:09:44 PM PDT by 4Liberty (Dems loot & riot -called "protesting" by media. Repub's protest -called "looting & rioting" by media)
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14 posted on 09/22/2023 1:19:20 PM PDT by 4Liberty (Dems loot & riot -called "protesting" by media. Repub's protest -called "looting & rioting" by media)
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To: Wuli

Please we need this war to stop.


15 posted on 09/22/2023 1:22:12 PM PDT by dforest
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The Ukrainiacs don’t care.


16 posted on 09/22/2023 2:22:27 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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Rand Paul for VP 2024.


17 posted on 09/22/2023 3:07:35 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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“Ant-Ukraine defense is merely more populist at the moment, and many populists have managed to get themselves elected as “Conservatives”.

You use the term “populist” as if it’s a bad thing.

Please contrast the tenets of populism with the tenets of conservatism and edify all of us rubes.


18 posted on 09/22/2023 3:13:40 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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“Please we need this war to stop.”

Simple - tell Putin to stop it.


19 posted on 09/22/2023 4:05:57 PM PDT by Wuli
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Go educate yourself on your own time.


20 posted on 09/22/2023 4:14:06 PM PDT by Wuli
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